CB Fry

How many points behind the automatic places were we at 7pm last night? And how far away are we now? Your definition of deluded is pretty off as well. It just means having a false belief, and you don't need another party to delude you, you can delude yourself no problem. As you are doing. Like Santa or Jesus or Brexit, it can be a comfort, so I bless you for it 🙏

It is deluded. Leicester losing doesn't get us any closer to finishing top two than we were before last night's match kicked off. There's a three way fight for top two and we're not in it.

Some absolutely lovely stuff there. Deranged.

Yes but in fairness they are still top of the league.

All you negative nellies need to grow a pair and just believe

Complete opposite for me. I think the best thing we could do for our Premier league survival would be to sack Martin the day after our play off final victory. If we don't go up he won't be sacked, they'll go with as much continuity as possible in the hope we can challenge in a slightly less challenging division next season. (Sacked by Bonfire Night).

We will absolutely annihilate them.

I will hold my hands up and say that I never really believed that Neil Armstrong could ever do that but fair play he proved me wrong.

No chance. We need to win every single games and we absolutely won't.

Jesus wept. We're just an incredibly well financed/well resourced football team stuttering and bimbling our way to the play offs, leaking goals for fun. We're not Leonardo Da Vinci inventing the helicopter.

Don't worry everyone. We are definitely winning this match.

#masterclass

Frozen and the clock ticking FFS

This thread (and reality) must be about 4 minutes ahead of my Now TV stream.

Its a shame Cov aren't wearing their hummel half and half kit (I think they revived it a few years back). That's mainly what I am thinking about while the stream I on.

If today's Russell Martin had taken over from Koeman with those defensive options and his defensive managerial ability we wouldn't be finishing eighth and getting to a cup final. We'd be bottom three all day long. But yeah, we'd have been like so much more "entertaining".

Absolutely no one is making that assumption. No one.

Comparing Martin to Selles is a particularly snidey comparison. He was a glorified caretaker for a club that was doomed by the time he had to step up. Martin was specifically appointed to get us promoted this season. He wasn't recruited to be a bit better than Ruben Selles.

....which is why we conceded loads and loads of goals, just like Swansea. Which is why we have completely fluffed automatic promotion.

I think the point is that Nathan Jones is a manager who has actually delivered for teams in the two divisions he has managed in. He's a brilliant bet for a play off place or promotion. Whereas Russell Martin has delivered fuck all at both other clubs he managed, with a pitiful goals against record in both clubs. He's a nothing manager currently on track to deliver nothing much for us too. You have grudgingly granted NJ with a "decent enough" achievement. But we're all waiting for anything that Martin has ever done anywhere in his entire career that is "decent enough".

Indeed - broadly speaking we were 11 points behind Leicester at the beginning of October and we were still 11 points behind them 20+ games later during the days of those people twatting on about Leeds (who we were 1 point behind) beating Leicester to help our own triumphant charge to the League title.

Because we're up shit creek if (when) we don't get promoted.

We can't afford to sack him. In every scenario he is still employed by us by the October International Break.

On holiday so I didn't follow the game. Only one question - were we brave?

That table can't be right, surely? Leicester seem to be clear at the top with a game in hand....