CB Fry

Noel Edmunds?

I don't need to go on any poxy website. We were signing £1m/£1.5m players when we were in League One. We signed centre backs from the division above. I can remember that far back. We spent big to go up.

What relegation happened in 2007/8 then? We were in the Championship the season before and the season after that season. Your figures don't even sound right anyway, and even if they technically are - I'd like to see how you break this down season by season - you are cherry picking. One killer point people conveniently ignore is small things like a) if we weren't owned by a billionaire we could never have got the fee we got for Chamberlain, and b) if we weren't owned by a billionaire that fee would go into club running costs not spunked entirely on new players and fees. And Batman has already covered the small matter of the millions converted into equity. But, nah, let's look on fu cking transfermarkt.com and pretend we did it all on the cheap.

Bournemouth's is truly a rags to riches story.

All you seem to do on this forum is post up links to mildly amusing news stories. You're like the Saintsweb equivalent of Steve Wright in the Afternoon.

Is that it?

LOL. Game set and match.

Yeah, but that's Koeman's masterplan. Suddenly unleash a completely brand new untried system on the unsuspecting rest of the league. The very last thing they expect us to do. Genius.

Lazyliegenschweinhund scumbagstein journalists, yes?

Don't really understand this reference - Hooiveld is an example of a player good enough for the Championship not being good enough for the Premier League, one of many, many examples. The fact that two years before he happened to play in Scotland doesn't feel relevant. Saints bought him to help get us promoted and he did.

This. Although am already readying myself to be utterly furious if we don't sign him. I mean, like, Marcus Rojo and everything. The whole thing feels a bit like an agent flushing out either a) a new contract for his lad or b) another club to come in. At this point I am not buying it but we'll see.

I hate the way football is all about money these days it makes me sick all the greed and it's nothing but a business these days and greed and money and oh I hate it but please please please for the love of god can we sneak into the richest competition in world football so we can have loads more money than the other teams below us and invest in fees and wages and fees and wages and have loads of fu cking money oh I wish we had loads more fuc king money.

I was talking about "traditional" kits in general, as was MLG who as you can see doesn't believe clubs have traditional kits, a point he made way back when, when he liked to talk about our Cortese plain red becoming our new traditional kit from the point we started wearing it. Because we were going to wear plain red for decades to come so we were.

What's that got to do with anything? I was gutted at Sunderland away. I was more gutted at SUFC away as I was there, because I want us to win trophies. I think I mentioned that.

Devalued by who? Sky? Rich clubs controlled by money that say you don't like? You "hate" them/say they're ghastly but accept their agenda? Well it is not devalued by me. I wanted us to win the FA Cup when I was 10 and I still do with exactly the same passion today. Not one once of devaluation from me. Try it yourself. Devaluation is in the eye of the beholder. Embrace achievement, success and silverware.

I think not having yellow - and - blue every season is fine - once every five seasons probably works in our new kit every year era. I dont feel particularly affectionate to it as Ive liked other aways in my time and wasn't born in 1976 anyway. I would suggest while Gecko was no doubt right, it's also true that yer Yellow top is less popular as an item of leisurewear so we might shift less compared to our recent dark blue/black efforts. Goes so well with the jeans, darling. I think we can file "Operation Seattle" next to "our plain red kit is going to conquer China for SFC" in the world of kit-centric silliness.

You could be like me and believe that wishing to finish fourth in league to achieve the right to enter a qualification round of another competition we can't possibly win is not actually an "achievement". It's only an achievement or in your words "one of the aims of the league" because of the money involved, which you said was ghastly. I think you should get behind us trying to a) win the FA Cup b) win the League Cup c) win the Europa League. Three things that actually are achievements. There's some "main aims" right there. Get on board.

What a load of rubbish. I could easily name the traditional kits of at least 75% of the clubs in the Football/Premier league, others on here ( calling The9) could do every sodding club. Chuck the major European clubs in and that is a heck of a lot of "traditional" kits we could all name.

Strange. You say you dont like all the "ghastly" money stuff, but you seem disappointed we didn't make it to the Champions League, the most "ghastly " money-centric football competition in the history of the world.

I predict Chelsea to grind their way to the league title, I'd like to see Arsenal win it but they won't. The two Manchester clubs could go either way - both seem to me to be on the cusp of greatness or meltdown (meltdown meaning, well, finishing fifth). I don't like City but would be happy to see United win the league, especially now that they have Morgan. I'm saying City might just do the meltdown thing and finish fifth, with Liverpool taking fourth. Spurs sixth or seventh. Everton and Newcastle will fight us for the top seventh/eighth spots. I think we'll struggle with too many fixtures and end up 9th. Palace and Villa, I think, will nudge past Swansea and be in that solid mid table pack with Stoke and WBA. I'd like to see Palace finish top of that lot. Swansea won't be in that fight and will finish 14th, with lots of MOTD analysis about "what's gone wrong at Swansea?" all season. WHU will have a sh it season but won't go down, Sunderland will have the same season again and will have some other chump manager saving them come March. Down will be Leicester, probably in a three manager season, Watford and Bournemouth, who will have an archetypal "they were fourth in September, you know" cliche debut season. Watford will sack a manager before Christmas and have a 16 point season of humiliation. Manchester United will definitely win the FA Cup and Manchester United will definitely not win the league cup. Chelsea will.

Maybe. In retrospect you can describe players as bargains or wastes of money, sure. In Victor's case, our choice is to flog now for, say, £20m, doing us out of a season of Victor Wanyama, or sell next season for £14m. My point about how the fee doesn't really matter is for our Wanyama replacement we will spend between £8-12m on come what may. It's highly unlikely we would spend, say £5m more on a replacement in 2015 rather than 2016. And in the meantime we've had that extra year of Victor in the team than selling him at the "optimal" time. The Toby affair and other transfers have created a mini forum hysteria that "if only we did xx" we could somehow chain players up in everlasting contracts and they'd never leave. Victor would be mad to sign an extension now if he has agent intelligence telling him he could be at Arsenal in a year. He probably had an eye on that way back when he signed for us in 2013. The fact that we are a stepping stone to greater things is a selling point for this club. I've no doubt Victor, Mane, Clasie, Cedric have signed for that reason among others. Good. Two years for Mane banging them gives us either a gigantic fee at the start of Y3 or another year banging them in for us and a lower fee, but still a fee at start of Y4. Happy days.

Interesting you interpret a post where I discuss how relaxed I am about Victor Wanyama leaving us next season as "frothy at the mouth". Funny, your sneering reference to "Uncle Les and co" seems far more frustrated/angry than anything I've said. Enjoy the season. We are in great hands, aren't we?

Would you call it our "traditional" away kit now MLG?

Except the club have never said anything about selling at an "optimum" time, or achieving an "optimal" fee. We will get three seasons out of Victor. I doubt he will sign an extension and if Arsenal/Liverpool etc want him next season they'll get him for £14m or another acceptable fee. Not the optimum fee we could ever get - but a fee we will accept. I don't quite understand the bed wetting about how that theoretical fee compares to what we paid Celtic for him, or some perceived sense of losing out because if he had a five year contract we could charge £35m for him or whatever. Who gives a fu cking monkeys - it isn't really our money, and it makes no difference to our ability to recruit the next one anyway. He has a year left, he won't renew, some Champions League-ish club want him, £14m or so, lovely, sold, done. Good luck and thanks Victor. Just remember we won't get ripped off, and guess what, we had a player called Victor Wanyama playing for us and his performances took us to top half finishes and European football. Three years of it. Brilliant. Now, I am thoroughly enjoying the fact that the 2016 meltdown has already started. Bring it on, you soppy old sods.