CB Fry

Great post. Aaaamen to that.

Christ almighty. As a club we've already spent more than enough to get out of League One twice over. We don't need to spend money to get out of this division.

Pie in the sky. You're utterly clueless. And anyway, that 100m is still debt to someone.

The Liebherrs don't do pi ssing money up the wall either. Blowing at least 100m on a new stadium as you now seem to be advocating is "debt" whichever way you look at it. Some mug would have to pay for it. This isn't a computer game, it's real life. I know you struggle with that.

It looks to me that Charlton Athletic Football Club PLC is the football club in the same way that SLH PLC was Saints. Sounds a bit like CAFC have got away with a cheeky one there.

What exactly do I need to provide "proof" for - I've given my opinion and set a challenge. The day we hit 30,000 averages in the league below is when we're ready for this mystical 48,000 seats in the Prem. Where's your proof of us filling 48,000 seats every freaking week? PS - it's a an internet message board, not a Commons Inquiry. Making statements of opinion is just fine.

Pie in the sky. Even if we finished top ten in the Prem three years in a row we wouldn't hit those kind of average attendences.

If we average 30,000 in the second tier, then let's look at expanding the stadium. We won't.

Yes - it's an internet forum. I only ever give my opinion. It's the slightly odd ball ones like you that take it slightly too seriously. We'll see what Mr Cortese does and doesn't achieve, won't we.

The JPT wasn't a small final - it was a massive jolly up to the new wembley stadium that we might not go back to in a generation. The game wasn't important but the event was. It wasn't some "chore". It's not comparable to a league fixture against Man City in a middling Premier League season. You build stadiums from the hard core up. If we fill 30,000 week in, week out in the second tier then we'd have a foundation for 10,000 extra seats in the Prem. We won't. We don't.

Wrong, that would take us back to an average of 30,000 as in our previous stint in the Prem. Our Computer Game friend is talking about another 10,000 kicking the door down week in, week out. If we get to the CCC and average 30,000 for the season, let's talk about expanding the stadium.

"Only get". 29,000 fans is plenty and is a realistic figure ongoing. We're not going to get 38,000. Everton and Villa can't get those kind of numbers through the doors at present. Stop kidding yourself that we would suddenly pull 10,000 regulars out of thin air.

If if if if if if if if if if. If we were getting 30,000 gates in League one then we'd need a 50,000 stadium in the Prem. Our stadium is just right. Get over it.

If we were getting 30,000 regularly in League one, you'd have point. We're not, you don't.

We need to be averaging 30plus, fine. We need to sell out for all games against the likes of Wigan and co. We'd need waiting lists for season tickets. We'd need the kind of demand there used to be at the Dell. Averaging 30,000 does not mean we just need to add in 10,000 more seats and bingo, the fans flood in. We've got a stadium reflective of the size of our fanbase - not the maximum number of fans that would turn up for a FA Cup Quarter final with Man United, but the amount of fans that will turn up regularly for a Premier League season. You don't build a stadium based on the number of fans that could turn up for the single biggest game of the season. You build it to a realistic number, and with a view to a good atmosphere. I know in your little computer game world you can take these little fantasy football decisions without ramifications but here in the real world it would be foolish to blunder in and build an expansion we simply don't need.

Yes we would. Saints in the Prem would see the corporate dollar making a significant reappearance for a start, and we'd shift a bucket load of season tickets. But we won't need to even think about expanding the ground until we'd been in the Prem for at least three seasons, and we'd have to have generated some kind of waiting list for season tickets. What we don't need is to panic and build a 42,000 stadium we don't need, purely to satisfy the ego of our chairman. Regardless of the size of the stadium, Saints v Wigan in the Premier League is never going to pull in any more than thirty thousand. And Saints v AN Other Championship team is only ever going to pull in less than that. Our stadium, at the moment, is the perfect size for our needs.

Well that took eight seconds.... http://therepublikofmancunia.com/fc-united-ticket-prices-and-how-we-compare-to-chelsea-arsenal-liverpool/ We were born to support one team, and thats Manchester United, FC are worse than Manchester City fans, at least they support one team. Mr Walsh and Co, what a joke, leaving Manchester United, enough said. So looks like I'm completely wrong. Manchester United fanbase completely united in supporting the existence of FC United of Manchester. Absolutely no "divisions" at all there then. One big mega happy family. Errr, except they've formed a breakaway team. But no divisions like those horrible Saints fans. Muppet.

What a load of boll ocks. FCUM is itself a "division", it's a breakaway. I bet I could walk into any Salford pub and find someone who thinks its leader is a ***** just like some fans on here slag off Illingsworth or whoever. In case you haven't noticed, Manchester United has not gone out of business and is still there. If Saints had gone out of existence (it was never going to happen) then a new club would be formed quite easily. We've got a solid, solid base of 15,000 absolute die hards so it wouldn't be difficult to build a small wessex league team out of that.

I'd say our strike force is better than Premier League megastars DJ Campbell and Brett Ormerod so yes, I think we are pretty well set up for the Championship. The squad, as it is now, and with a (our current) decent manager would finish comfortably in the middle of the Championship.

The end of the day we would never have needed to. There was no chance of us going out of existence like Aldershot and we weren't about to be moved to Milton Keynes. Markus or no Markus we were never going out of existence. Our fanbase is too big, and there is no value in a second hand unused football stadium. It was never, ever, ever going to happen.

You're forgetting that Morgan Schneiderlin will be signing for Arsenal any day now as he really has actually been an Arsenal player all along and is only at Saints on some complicated loan deal and he is definitely definitely an Arsenal player and always has been probably since birth and I know this because my brothers mate's sisters dad is a cab driver who knows Reuben Agboola's mum. That's why Arsene is bigging us up. Spin back eighteen months and there were plenty on this forum swearing blind the truth of the Morgan-is-really-an-Arsenal-player rumour.

Indeed, a cracking job, and he'll take us up this season, no bother. Let's not forget that on his appointment some contributors to this forum were saying he would take two additional seasons after this one to get us promoted. Yes, promoted from league one in 2013. But some people never learn. Delighted that, as I expected, Adkins has been an instant success and he'll take us up this season.

Agreed. This is a quite bizarre thread. What exactly has Andy Townsend done or not done in the last few days to justify this thread? It seems to all spring from something he did or didn't say during his work on the FA Cup tie with the Blue Few. Which was, err, about nine months ago. Maybe he got Smirking Saint's missus up the duff and the DNA tests have just come through.

If it takes three months to "update" a news front page following a manager being sacked, several bouts of news on potential replacements/arguments with other clubs about poaching/the appointment of new manager/signing of a new midfielder then I'm not sure "leave him to it" is appropriate. Just take the news page down. If no one "lands" on that page, then get rid of it alltogether rather than leaving it gathering dust broadcasting ancient history to the Saints universe. I've "given it a go". The "news" page says the latest news is Pardew has just been sacked. How much of a "go" can we "give it" Get rid of the news page all together if no one can be bothered to update it [and frankly, if no one can be bothered, that's fine by me. I can get Saints news elsewhere] But currently, it's an embarrassment.

But the original post was specifically about fanbase/stature/stadium etc and not money - hence the "kick out Fulham and Wigan" stuff. QPR being owned by billionaires doesn't make them big on those terms - QPR are no bigger than Fulham in terms of fanbase and all the other stuff matey was going on about.