CB Fry

I'm all over your posts like a rash am I?! You're the one that keeps inviting me out for a drink. It's like being groomed by a facebook perv. Look, I am happy to admit you are the superest dooperest fan around. You're the best. But **** me you have zero sense of humour.

How so? It's the kind of story only the echo would report at this stage. If tried and convicted it'll make a line or two in the nationals and on the bbc.

So just to confirm in your world george burley was fantastically successful at saints. But on the other hand chelsea with league titles, euro cup finals, cups and season after season of top two, three finishes is proof that money doesn't buy success? What utter garbage you write. Over and over again.

We will never be rid of ego maniac we-know-best uberfans with these two fundemental beliefs: 1) "Doing something" is the only solution and as long as you are "doing something" you are beyond criticism. We're trying, how dare you question anything. 2) Saints fans know what's best because they are Saints fans. No other qualification, experience, background or attitude matters. Give the job to a Saints fan because they are a Saints fan. And the statue, the monument, the living shrine to these eternal we know best we are uberfans beliefs? What could it be....

We won't go all out to win the JPT next season. It is a trophy quite often won by L2 clubs for that very reason - Luton and MK won it as fourth tier clubs in the last couple of seasons. Pardew won't say it, but JPT will no way be on the agenda next season.

I'd rather read it. Far quicker. And who on earth wants to log in and watch an interview with the saints assistant manager? :smt015 I want newspapers to boil down the key points and tell me. Thank god they are still about to do it, in electronic or print form. Anyway I think Wilkins makes a fine point - our looming presence will prey on the minds of our rivals. We need a perfect end to the season, and us having that I am convinced will help influence one of our rivals to choke. As the song says, The Saints are coming.

That's a awfully long messageboard post for someone who "doesn't give a ****ing feck who booed" and closes it with "FFS Get a Life". God knows what "scale" of booing you seem to think I am "pontificating" about. All I've ever said is a few fans booed and you could hear it. On the day, in the ground I'd forgotten about it seconds after we all had a laugh about it in the moment. I'd call your "it was silence misconstrued as booing" as "pontificating" personally, but as you said it and you're superdooper fan you must be right. This thread is only amusing because of the lengths people are going to pretend something didn't happen when it did, especially people who then say they couldn't give a "***ing feck" about it. It seems you do, dear. I'm sorry you won't ever see me in the Saints Social Club, but do have a pint of anorak on me.

I was in the ground and heard the booing when the screen switched to Cortese. As I've already put in this thread, me, my mates and the people around me all started saying things like "what are they booing him for" and shrugging our shoulders and then laughing. It was ridiculous and hilarious, but it was not "silence misconstrued as boos" like you're trying to make out. It was boos construed* as boos. I've no idea what Sky did or didn't do as I was at the game and don't have Sky so didn't see any reruns either. And if you read the thread no one is talking about any "scale" of booing. It was a handful of fans, but you could hear it. There are pages of people like you desperately pretending it didn't happen, but Christ knows why. Nice to see the usual "I'm a better fan than you" routine from you. Wouldn't have expected anything else Mr Superdooperfan.

I agree with the original poster - we or Wembley should have engineered a singing section so people who want to sing could sit (stand) together. The atmosphere was not great because there were too many fans and the singers were clearly all spread out. (Obviously it was brilliant to have so many fans there but it was too many to get the wall of sound going). A sizeable cluster of singers in one corner would have got the rest of the ground going but songs didn't really seem to take off - the best example being the Ricky Lambert song didn't get going even when he'd scored. It seemed to have been sung by a few on the other side of the ground but not enough for it to take off and it definitely didn't where I was. I'm no super singer but would have sung more had songs got going, but it's difficult when surrounded by silence. I'm sure I wasn't alone in that.

Err - it's the people falling over themselves to make out it didn't happen that are "getting uptight" and "worrying what some fan in Sunderland thinks". Some idiot fans did it. They are idiots. End of discussion. It's those pretending that it never happened, no way, not never that are stringing this out.

I don't really see anyone making an issue apart from people pontificating about Sky making it up and it didn't happen and blah blah blah. Some fans booed Cortese, it was very odd and pretty dopey. I thought that at the time and I still think it. It wasn't and isn't a big deal but it was odd. The only thing that is a big deal is people contorting about pretending actually it didn't happen at all which is frankly bizarre. You can see how many bullsh it rumours end up on here when you can actually read people lying through their teeth just to make some lame-ass point to make themselves superior to other fans. "Silence misconstrued as boos". "It was all at Mawhinney". "Sky made it up". This thread isn't about booing Cortese anymore. It's about the tide of bull crap that is paraded out on this forum by people desperate to seem influential and desperate to swear black is white just to win an argument.

Typical arrogance as usual from you - what "scale" do the rest of us think it was at then? Because everyone is wrong except you. The only people who are wrong are the people hopping from foot to foot pretending there were no boos/Sky made it all up/its was towards Mawhinney/it was silence misconstrued as boos (?)/etc/etc. There were boos in the ground when Cortese was on the big screen. That's all anyone has ever said - the theorising and waffle has come from people pretending it didn't happen. It did happen. Loud enough for me and lots of people around me to say "what are they booing for". It was nothing major but it did happen. Why people on here are desperate to pretend it didn't is just maddening. And no, it definitely wasn't "silence misconstrued as boos", whatever the f uc k that's supposed to mean. That's it.

You're only saying that with hindsight. The Wilde crest of a wave was as huge as the ML one, especially first half of the season. Being that we've just had eight months of grizzling about how important pre season is you'd have to George Burley was the luckiest manager on earth, as his pre season started in February of the season before. But funnily enough none of the people grizzling about pre season this season talked about how lucky Burley was back in those days to have that oh-so-precious massive pre season - they had to find something else to single us out as Britain's most hard done by football club. Funny that. And they'll find something else next season you can be sure of that.

Fair dos, I thought we overtook Preston on the last day. But we were hardly fixtures in the play offs all season, and we benefitted from Preston collapsing in the final weeks. Anyway, my original point was we didn't go into those play offs thinking "I can't see us losing it". We weren't on the crest of a wave. We scraped into the play offs and entered them not as favourites.

I'd take promotion this season and a mediocre season in the CCC next year over a season of winning L1 at a canter next season. Because the chances are we'd just be delaying our mediocre season in the CCC by a year. Let's get promoted as soon as possible and start building for the push to the prem.

No we didn't. We scraped into those play offs when it wasn't even in our hands on the last day. This time we will storm into the play offs because scraping in is not an option.

I was mexican waving at Lord Mawhinney and no one else and anyone that says different clearly wasn't at the game.

Lord Mawhinney did not walk onto the pitch at the exact five second moment Cortese was on the big screen. Christ almighty. Mawhinney got booed when his name was called out. Not before, not after. Cortese got booed (a lot fewer boos mind) when he came on the big screen just seconds after people cheering Markus when he was on the screen. Or were those cheering Markus really cheering Lord Mawhinney, because the two noises were seconds apart? I know this is fuc king with people's heads, but the two occurances of booing happened at different times.

Difficult to say really, it was certainly enough to be clearly heard amongst 70,000 football fans. Was probably a few hundred - it's worth mentioning the atmosphere was pretty disjointed all afternoon - the singers being spread around the place meaning songs didn't really take off except in little clusters. So in that context, a collective noise like a boo must have been from a not insignificant number. But it was nothing like a majority of fans. It was, frankly, just a bit strange and not really worth dwelling on. Just ridiculous people on here pretending it didn't happen and that Sky or TDD is making it up. But then we had the same smart arses pretending the Echo made up the trouble in the car showroom after the pompey game "to sell papers" so I'm not surprised.

Let's get this straight. I was there, and when the screen was on Markus there were cheers, and when the camera moved to Cortese there were clear, audible boos. There was nothing else happening in the stadium that would have resulted in simultaneous booing. And no, it was not Mawhinney, unless you seriously think more Saints fans cheered Mawhinney than booed him, because the cheers and boos where seconds apart. Funnily enough in those seconds Markus, then Cortese were on the big screen. I turned to my mates, and the other people around me, all of which said words to the tune of "what are they booing him for" and such like. And remember Mawhinney got booed when they said his name, which was before that. He got his boos. Christ almighty. It happened. Get over it.

It happened when the ten other people on this thread said it happened. Pre match - Markus on screen - cheers, moved to Nicola - Boos. It happened. Not alledged, nothing to do with Mahwinney or Mexican waves. It happened, pretty clear all round the ground.

This. Ten points off the play offs at the end of the season is "par". Acheiving it will not be an outstanding achievement, just acceptably good. Lots of people on here drone on about how terribly difficult we've had it, but I'd bet all the money in the world that Kenny Jackett, Danny Wilson and Aidy Boothroyd would take our resources over what they've had to make their silk purses from.

Merrington obviously didn't read the thread on here after that game that said his role as a commentator is to say how brilliant we're playing regardless of what's actually happening on the pitch.

PompyPride - not allowing a level playing field? Or challenge that Chelsea shouldn't be allowed to play Drogba? ... restraining Portsmouth from playing in the premier league, because we invoked administration under the insolvency company act is .. an unreasonably restraint, stoping us trading and playing in the premier league. who man united or Chelsea choose to play has nothing to do with this fundamental freedom which is to act within company law by protecting the company and giving it time to re-structure its debts and survive a winding up petition. You know what, I'd keep schtum about "company law" if I were you. I'm not sure your scu mmy little club has got the moral high ground here.

I thought having a manager who doesn't hand pick entirely his own backroom staff was a bad thing. Oh, sorry, that's when it happens to us. When it happens to another club it's a measure of consistency. Beautiful contortion act to make out that despite sacking a manager after one game and said manager spending money on new players they have more staff consistency than we do. It's the usual story - every other team has it easy, Saints have it tough. Why could they? Their change of stewardship was a hell of a lot later than ours was and at least Pardew got to select which players he wanted to buy. I'd love to see the whining on here if we had a manager inheriting a squad hand picked and pre-seasoned by the previous manager. I doubt many fans would be talking about "measures of consistency". What ever happens its the same old story Southampton - battling impossible odds all the time regardless of money spent or players bought. Britains underdog. Every other team in britain - got it easy.