SW11_Saint

I'm old enough mate I count myself as sane by the way - yes we had to cut costs, but it all goes back to Lowe's inability to differentiate between Cost and Value. I won't use the old Oscar Wilde quote again. There are other ways of cutting costs than farming your whole strike force out on loan...

I wonder if Matt is truly involved in this bid, or whether they just see him as a "trump card" in terms of fan approval. Regardless, if there are other better offers - in terms of financials, and/or business acumen - I'd still go with the alternatives, even if it meant passing up Le Tiss on the board. The next Board of this club MUST be the right fit to get us moving onwards and upwards. Also, who's to say other consortia won't also potentially use Matty in some way.

Spot on Daren.

Or perhaps if he hadn't been farmed out for most of the season by short sighted Lowe, we might not have got in the mess...?

BTW - are you a QPR fan, or a Saints fan? If the former, why do you bother coming on here, are QPR really that boring??

Because we have a bunch of pr1cks in the boardroom - who then thought they could circumvent the very rules they voted in setting up the Plc/FC structure. Sums them up. I'm not having a go at the rule, more the intepretation of it.

Can't say I blame him. Not too many internationals playing at that level. Best of luck, and thanks for the efforts Saga.

And that is they key here to my mind - can anyone seriously believe that Stockport moving down a few places constitutes a "material difference" to them? -10 next year certainly would though. Is it fair, given that we have both committed the same "crime" that they start out with a 10 point advantage over us next year? The answer is indupitably NO.

Your quote clearly indicated that you felt the (financial) mismanagement "started with Wilde etc" - it therefore insinuates that you are absolving Lowe, in his previous tenure, of any hand in our financial predicament. Poppy**** and balderdash!

I'm a shareholder, I've seen them - but it is far too blinkered to think that these two years are the sole root cause of our financial problems (and blieve me, I am not omitting Crouch, Hone, Hoos, Wilde etc. etc. from their share of blame - in my mind they are all culpable). Our financial problems are a result of a failed stratey(ies), bad management, poor managerial appointments - all leading to poor performance, lower gates, decreased income. Like I say, I am not going to rehash all of this - there are plenty of threads on it, read them if you wish. You go on believing that Lowe has no responsibility whatsoever for our financial mess, up to you mate - but please don't come spouting on here about him being 'without sin'; credit the rest of us with some intellegence (and a more balanced view of what has gone on!).

Ah, the old start a post with "you lowe lovies make me laugh/sick blah blah blah" trick, before going on to point the finger of blame on anyone but his lordship. Well done, he'd be proud of you. PS I can't be bothered going through the whole story of our decline, and you likely wouldn't listen anyway, but suffice to say that our financial problems did not start the minute Lord Lowe left the club, and you're just embarrassing yourself by intimating that they did.

Okay, what the hell, ... allegedly Kevin Keegan was seen in town yesterday. Not sure why, may be purely coincidental, and he may even still live in the area, but as a bit of tittle-tattle I thought it worth throwing in there...

I'd go for the Souness consortium as #1 - had decent contacts in the game, knows his stuff and would be in it for the long haul. Wouldn't turn away Matty, naturally, but I think Souness would be the best option.

But ultimately there is no one to blame more than him...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/apr/27/southampton-bidders-list-championship Not much detail, but at least it seems Lowe is not involved in any of the bids. Thank **** for that!

Perhaps we could hire Dexter to "do a job" for us? After all, he likes to take out people who contribute nothing to society...

Just an Epsom RX425 printer -does normal printing (docs), photos and has a scanner/copier built in. Bought it a few years ago, so sure there are better models now, but it wasn't that expensive either (the bl00dy ink is though!). Bought from PC World.

The mark of the beast!

Check out this photo in yesterday's Guardian... Look closely. Is that the ghostly spectre of Rupert Lowe on Wotten's blood soaked shirt, grinning at our demise? Like I say, spooky...

The Setanta commentator?? No relation I don't think. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Lowe Does Lowe have adult kids? or a sister? Good God I hope that cn_t is not involved.

It's UK - which should include Jersey/Guernsey - and includes UK residents like Mittal (#1) and Abramovich (#2) who aren't British (least I don't think Mittal is). Also does a list of the 50 richest in the world, but that's obviously just the mega big hitters like Paul Allen (#36 in the world, £7.3bn). If they were real big boys they'd be on here, not to say they aren't still significantly wealthy. Other names linked with us (in the past) are Gavyn Davies #600 (£90m) and Rod Stewart (yes, I know?!?!?), #540 (£100m).

Neither is on the Sunday Times Rich List, but that's probably expecting too much anyway! I guess beggars can't be choosers, but I really did hope we'd attract someone with a bit of financial clout (given rumours of a "household name" being involved in one of the consortia).

An excellent article. The Guardian seems to be the only national taking note of our plight. Sadly, I don't expect the rest of football to take notice... Actually, I was interested in this line in his article "Until someone proves otherwise, we are obliged to suspect c_ck-up rather than conspiracy."... as the day before there was the following line in the match report in the Guardian, by Jeremy Alexander (link below), which made me sit up and take notice - "Another FA investigation may discover where a reported £40m went missing." Could be just an oblique reference to us squandering tens of millions of transfer income, but I'm starting to wonder - has The Guardian got a whiff of something less than honest going on at SMS? http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/apr/27/southampton-burnley-championship-relegation I know I've always tried to fathom how with our gate receipts (from fairly decent attendences), the transfer money, commercial income etc. we've ended up SO deep in trouble. Obviously £40m is a heck of a figure to hide under the carpet, but it did get me thinking...

In which case you'd probably need to call it the "Leon & Lawrie Stadium". Nothing at all wrong with St. Mary's Stadium, and I wouldn't expect that to change (although if RB wants to buy us and call it the Virgin (St.) Mary Stadium - fine with me!).

Although, as we know - out of the thousands of letters (of complaint) he'd pick the one that tells him he's doing a good job (doubtless from Jonah or 19Canteen/GuidedMissile) and wave that around as some sort of mandate to carry on his "good work". Wonder what state we'd have to be in for him to admit we weren't doing well - perhaps SMS in a pile of rubble? Mind, that'd probably be blamed on Crouch or the fans too...