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Oh lordy, how many times. It's A fact, without doubt, but not ALL of the facts. Unless you are friends with all interested parties, and have been told all of the salient information of each bid. Hypothetically speaking of course.

It isn't facts at all - just a theory based on the very limited information that is "out in the open" (if we can trust that, which I doubt) at the moment. The only person who knows all of the facts is Mr. Fry. Fact.

You said it!

They have the facts about their own bids, but only Fry & Co. have complete information...

I do, because no one bar Mr. Fry and his team have the FACTS. Unless you and Nickh do, in which case, care to share?

So, you have inside information about the negotiations do you? PS isn't it about time you changed your "location" (or at least changed 'except' to 'accept')?

And it's not based on anything like FACTS!

Do you, Guided Missile/19Canteen etc. have some sort of axe to grind? Just let the guy do his job FFS and then we'll find out who is going to take over. It helps no ones mood to spread doom and gloom or criticise the administrator. We won't know anything until the time is right - it's not as if we're talking about buying a pot of paint, these things take time and are, by their nature, complex. Have patience... PS in answer to my own question, of course you and GM/19C have an axe to grind - you are continually trying to smokescreen criticism away from Lowe, the imbecile who took us to relegation AND administration. FYI it doesn't work!

What a ray of sunshine you are. Why not keep schtum until the announcement is made. No point thinking about anything until it happens - and it WILL happen. If you want to vent some frustration, why not focus on the imbecile who got us into this ridiculous state in the first place...?

To what though? I don't think he'll get many "bigger" offers than us in the forseeable future. He does of course want to manage Inter one day, if they go for him after us great - it'll mean he's done a damn fine job!

Guided Missile/19 Canteen would probably rather that - but then he is a die-hard Rupert "two relegations/one administration" Lowe fanatic, so draw your own conclusions!

Worse than Portvliet, Wigley, Gray or Wotte you mean?

But it does make you want to believe in it all over again. Shame it was such a false dawn. Oh well, let's not assume that the new guys are going to be the same, and frankly, no one can do a worse job than Lowe, so that's one positive already!

Agree - the more I think about it, the better Ince seems to be as a managerial choice. He has experience in the lower leagues, has great experience as a player and numerous contacts, and he also has something to prove post-Blackburn. If we could tie him into our long term plan I think it could work really well - of course, it would also need the new owners to convince him what we can match his ambition!!!

All fair comments Frank. Two points to add - If Lowe's vision was to have us become another Ajax, i.e. produce talent and sell some, but also retain some and progress as a club, then great - remember Ajax are still one of the biggest clubs in Europe and are regularly in the Champions League (ok, not next year!). However, I don't believe that was Lowe's vision - imo his was rather to sell the talent as it rolled off the conveyer belt (a la Walcott, Bale) so that we would likely just "tread water" in the CCC. As a fan, I have no real interest in us becoming a "feeder club" for the 'bigger' clubs - the 'bigger' clubs in these days including Fulham, Wigan, Portsmouth, Hull etc. I think it's great to develop our own talent - in fact it's critical - but I think we've been kidding ourselves to think we're the best at doing this. Every club has a youth academy, some with great success (WHU, Middelsboro, Man Utd etc.), but it has to be done in the right way, at the right pace and you have to retain some talent rather than flogging them all when they hit 19/20. As you mention, jettisoning Pearson was a big mistake. I too think that he might well have been able to work with Lowe if given a bit of leeway on who he wanted to keep and who he wanted to farm out - if this decision was taken out of his hands, then his position would clearly be untenable. JP and MW had no idea of the league they were walking in to. You cannot underestimate how valuable that "local knowledge" is - to my mind Pearson was the perfect guy to lead the club, cut from similar cloth to Coyle at Burnely and Irvine at Preston (and look how well they've done on limited resources), as well as being someone who had the fans on his side and had reinstated a bit of a "feelgood" factor. Anyway, all if's but's and maybe's now, but I do hope we are finished with the era or Lowe's experiments. I stick to my view that it isn't that difficult to be successful in the CCC (or hopefully L1) - you just need good organisation, hard graft, a smattering of talent, and a decent goalscorer. Let's hope that is the strategy we'll be working towards with the next board...

Agreed. We should have taken the offer - think how different our season might have been this year...

Separate legal entities they may be, but that doesn't mean diddly-squate to the Football League, and even the most rabid among us must admit that the Plc and the FC are clearly closely tied economically. However Lowe & Co. have tried to dress it up, smokescreen etc. it was never going to wash with the FL...

Marco van Basten is available now - how about him!!!

And therein lies the true folly - thinking that that type of system could work in a "cloggers league" (with kids!). You couuldn't make it up, you really couldn't...

As we suspected - come out come out wherever you are Jonah, 19Canteen/Guided Missile etc. You pay peanuts... So why did Wilde just stand by and let Lowe implement his "revolutionary plan"... They guy is a jerk of the highest order, and spineless to boot.

What does he mean "if he had the chance" - he had the chance TWICE! - and blew it royally both times. First time bringing in a bunch of corporate autocrats, and the second time he was happy to play Lowe's lap dog. The guy is a total and utter invertebrate, let's hope we've seen the last of him along with Lowe, Cowan & Co.

Part of the Lowe "revolution" and frankly, like the other guy, not up to the job. Has to go.

Perhaps spending £1.2m on Pearson's wages would have been a better investment, but of course that wasn't part of the revolutionary masterplan was it... Still, Lowe's 'genius' is there for all to see now - relegation, and administration. Job done.

If it is his plan, then he'll be on his own! I think Fry is just playing a canny game - we have interested parties, we know that, and I am sure something will happen as soon as the season is over.