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But surely he's just using a word or phrase that is "perfectly acceptable in terms of debate or the written word." All Robbie did was compare your blinkered defence of Lowe that runs against the facts to a Holocust denyer whose actions again go against the obvious facts. He's not saying you deny the holcaust you complete and utter retard... It's a bit rich coming from someone who threw a hissy fit when I asked people to think a bit about using the word cancer when describing an old man you think may or may not claim too much in terms of expenses and yet when someone likens you to a holocuast denyer you get on your high horse and flounce around like big girl. He just using words, you're just too stupid to see the comparison to what you said about me nearly a year ago and which you still drone on about... Talk about being a ****ing hypocrite...

I see, so a supposed love of dsomething means you can trample over people's feelings then? Surely only someone devoid of any common sense would think it would be a good idea to turn up at a game, on a freebie when tensions are so high. Now you do raise a good point when it comes to administration. It is bad for Lowe. Now might that be the reason why he held off the inevitable in terms of administration? Had we gone to the wall earlier we'd be bottom of the league and relegated but at least next season would be a fresh start. Did Lowe hold on too long because he didn't want to lose his investment rather than doing the right thing for the club? It's a possibility...

Obvious the division in the fanbase isn't helping matters, but then neither is Lowe's unwelcome appearance on a freebie at the last game, possibly, that the club might ever play... I think that is what Fan The Flames is getting at...

Um, I'm sorry to turn on you but you're on thin ice here with me... Especially when I hear, from an impeachable source, that you've been offering out old ladies and children in block 10 You've lost all sorts of credibilty with me if that's true...

True. I think most people are furious not only that he's there, effectively sticking two fingers up at the fans but also that he's blagged a freebie. I think people are generally quite forgiving and will let things go but not when it's being thrown up in their face and let's be honest when people are preaching to the fans to move on, wouldn't it be wise to mention that to Lowe himself? I'm sure all of us would like to move on and forget the man ever existed but it's damn hard when he's doing his level best to keep reminding us.

To be fair, now Matt has pinned his colours to the anti Lowe mast I think it's only a matter of tine before Numpteen Beast and his cabal start questioning expenses, playing record etc...

Hmmm, that was very clearly hinted at in the article wasn't it? I wonder what happened to sour the relationship between the club and Flybe so much?

Agreed. Troll duly blocked. Ooh... I feel warm and fuzzy now.... Edit: That's no bloody use, I've blocked the pillock and it says: "This message is hidden because Nineteen Canteen is on your ignore list." What use is that? I just know I'll be tempted to see what he's posted! Can he not just vanish from sight???

Unsolicted abuse? lol Get her... Points? What points? You hammer home your ridiculous pro Lowe agenda, get shot down more any other poster I know, run, hide and then pop back on another thread with the same tired agenda driven drivel. You really do seem to have delusions of adequacy, as you obviously seem to think you're mine and Um's arch nemesis which is quite frankly hilarious as you've had your arse kicked all over this messageboard without reply. I notice you still haven't answered eelpie's question when he asked you what you've done for the club recently which tells us all we need to know... You've done nothing... I think, that as you've obviously challenged Um's version of this PM saga and called him a liar, I take that as an open invite for Um to publish them... don't you? lol As for the "friendly comments" tag, I'll remember that when I cut and paste that cowardly dig you made at me on Essru's messageboard... As for Um being the compliant accoutant type.... Obviously no mirrors in your house you dullard. Now **** off you screaming, overly verbose, unremittingly dull, drama queen...

Funny how today we have two threads that revolve around "loyalty." NickH finds it hard to forgive a manager who stayed at the club for 12 years. Numerous posters on here find it hard to forgive a player who wants to leave after relegation to League 1 Personally I find it hard to criticise an international player who thinks that a drop to the third team will harm his career. Especially a player who was farmed out on loan for a large portion of his last season here and was only brought back when the situation got drastic. It's hard for a player to feel that much for a club when he's been messed around so much. No hard feeling Marek, I don't expect a Polish international striker to be playing League One...

ssshh.... He's giving me a virtual thrashing... lol I do think I should tell him I have no intention of being his "fag" lol

It's not being professionally done... it's being done by me... Or what that what you were implying????? lol So what are you dong for the club? Giving at the office still? lolol Oh, and the poodle metaphor? You want me to explain it? 1) Poodle... Slightly effeminate dog 2) Humping ones leg. I can just imagine those little doggy legs working frantically as they're humping away. Just as I can imagine your little fingering tap tapping away frantically as you google and cut and paste your latest bonne note.. Seriously you need to work on the insults because you're just so unremittingly dull... Must try harder Numpteen.... lol

It's not just me then who thinks somewhere along the line something's amiss. We're told transfers in equalled transfers out in the Premiership, so with all those big money transfers out there must have been an awful lot of players bought for a million or so and just given away... Transfers in = transfers out. Sky & Premiership money = Wages So what does the stadium income cover? Payoffs? Admin costs?

Now that is good point. Our transfer record is, correct me if I'm wrong, Rory Delap... Bought with Dell money

Saints Aid you mean? Well Lee and Nick asked me to help and of course I'd help... I'm doing the programme, no more, no less. Did you have a problem reading that on the Saints Aid web page or are you just re-adjusting the facts for some minor insult again? Whatever Im doing it's more than can be said for "I gave at the office" twots like you who do nothing. You're all **** and wind aren't you? lol Seriously, you having a dig... it's like having my leg humped by a poodle... Jog on, there's a good boy...

That would be a no then.... Gave at the office again eh? Lol

Well at least I'm doing something Numpteen.... Shouldn't you be boring the tits off everyone? Oh sorry... You already are...

But to be fair Nick, he was with us for 12 years! How many managers stay that long? I appreciate it was a different era, a different mentality but 12 years is a heckva long time... But rather than have a few misguided numpties slagging him off, it's refreshing to see someone, who despite the fact he disagrees with the man, can acknowledge his contribution to Saints lore... Good on you Nick...

Um Old chap, you might just have saved the long term financial stabilty of this club! There'd BS to cover the south coast and enough hot air to take Branson to the moon in one of his balloons.. g e n i u s.....

Well if hot air and stupidity could help Saints, he'd make us Champions of Europe...

It's got to be said Stanley, you are so much better with Photoshop than your detractors.... lol

As opposed to your "stick your head in the sand and hope it'll go away" approach which has paid off handsomely so far hasn't it?

Oh that's it is it? The last two season's overspending is completely to blame for everything is it? Relegation? Pay offs to ousted managers? Money wasted on administration costs and wages? And it's only the "overspending" of the last two years that has ****ed this club up? Some people just cannot see the wood for the trees on this messageboard.

It appears to me that Crouch's comments aside, am I the only one thinking how unbelievably inappropriate Lowe's actions are?? How can people defend his right to attend a game with hospitality provided by a fellow "chairman" when... a) It's hopsitality supplied by the chairman of a club that, had the FA not relegated us, would be a direct relegation rival? and b) It's rather inappropriate, when the emotions still run high, to enflame the situation. Surely he must see how unpopular he is? Why would he do this unless he either doesn't care or thinks he's right, we're wrong and this is just a "**** you." Either way surely there comes a point when someone realises they're not welcome, not liked and just can go away, lick their wounds and try something different? His attitude seems to suggest a serious personality flaw...

What? And Lowe's PR tour, absolving himself of any blame isn't ironic?? Lowe has kept away from SMS has he? He's kept a "lowe" profile has he?? I must have dreamt up those provocative statements he made to the media absolving himself of any blame then?? Unbelievable how you can pick Crouch apart and yet blatantly ignore Lowe doing exactly the same. Crouch may not be blameless, he was a chairman, he deserves some of the blame, but the way you pick him apart whilst ignoring Lowe's confrontational, provocative stance which effectively sticks two fingers up at the fans, is just plain weird...