Robsk II

Ah, good old severe paralysis mocking.

Harsh.

Lordswood pikeys don't use capitals.

Countysaint, you're no covering yourself with glory. Try arguing sensibly rather than just using locality as an insult.

Perspective is a wonderful thing. I think that many individuals did a few things that, alone, can't be seen too seriously, but that, as a collective action, was possibly not a good idea for the image of a club looking to be sold and with FA discipline already in place for next year. Directing polemics at these individuals is fruitless and irrational, because most won't see a bit of something small as a major issue and perhaps haven't considered the cost given the frequency of such events. Most people woudn't consider these to be hardened criminals, and while this WILL cost the club money, it sounds like most of the cost will amount to peanuts as far as a football club goes, even one in relative crisis - when compared to staffing costs, catering, etc, let alone player wages. Equally - spending money on the club, no matter how much, no matter how long - does NOT provide a license to take anything back. We choose to spend our money on the club, knowing there is no return other than the emotional rollercoaster the seasons provide. It isn't a huge deal, but there is also no valid excuse - this feeling of apparent entitlement is without rationality or reason at all. If you pay for tickets and merchandise, that's your choice entirely, and you do so knowing that it's a one way financial transaction. The club owes use nothing physical, even if we may hope they owe us good football and progression (fat chance!).

Bravo!

Yeah, this is all because some people who were posh and rich came in. We need some real salt of the earth southampton types to buy the club, maybe someone who made a fortune operating a crane in the docks, or working at Michelmarsh brickworks.

1915: Roy Keane is through on goal but Edwin van der Sar comes out from his goal and smothers the striker's shot.

I don't think anyone's making light of it. I just don't see the point in doing anything but accepting it as quick as we can then making every effort to move forwards to redress the woeful fall from grace we have been subject to.

Saint martini, I did concede that Wotte should've given the role to another - I just still think it's worth being reasonable about apportioning responsibility, and Wotte can't be held entirely accountable either. As Popester implies, if you're going to blame anyone completely, it has to be the person that makes the biggest decisions of all.

Losing didn't help. Ever.

I don't like this kind of finger-pointing. Clearly, that miss has cost us, but so have many others this season. Yes, he should've relinquished the duty, and the manager should have given it to someone else - but how many glorious chances have many players missed this term, how many stupid errors at crucial times? No matter how it feels now, where we end up is an amalgam of the season, every kick of the ball. Let's blame the whole team, and judge players on overall performances throughout the season. As it goes, I don't rate DMG highly on most of this season, but one penno miss could happen to anyone and if we'd defended better towards the end, it wouldn't seem so important anyway.

I agree with you fm44 and ESB - I don't really mind what division we're in. So I'm not devestated at all, partially because the writing was on the wall. If the club did cease to exist, I'd feel rather different about it - but existing is the key thing. While it would of course be best to be up in the premiership, I'll not be jumping ship whatever. It's just really strange, falling so far, so fast, and for so many reasons, with so many seemingly avoidable factors, so many apparently apathetic people involved in the club, etc.

Despite the air of inevitability that has seemed to permeate the city and the club for some time - particularly recently - I still can't quite get my head round all this. Around being in League One next season. i don't see much point in being depressed, facts are facts. But it's just sodding weird.

Well there we are.

Alright.

I'll do one.

It's a good one, well done to him. Comes over rather better than many would expect. not sure I'd go as far as to describe him as intellectual, Lungs, but then maybe we have different crteria. You hang about with Aust, after all.. ( joke )

Indeed.

Hilariously, I have mumps and have hardly been able to sit up much for 5 days already, signed off for work next week, and it's my birthday on Tuesday. Gay.

Pahars

Lol @ this.

Pancake, I was actually mostly kidding and making comment for the benefit of the loons who don't see things both sides. I did say I thought some f your points may have been joking.. so.. yus. Chastised, but needlessly

I'm not entirely sure you were serious with this post, pancake, but others seem to have thought so.. I would question my orders somewhat rather than just be told what is aggravating and what is not. Being told to treat everyone people who don't bow and scrape to the old bill when they're innocent of any crime as 'aggravating' is nothing short of retarded. Any one of us here would feel aggrieved for being persecuted by the police, and it's only because the moron-wing find anyone vaguely liberal even more irrationaly loathsome than even the police that there is this argument. As for the last bit - how was that legal, or anything short of an illegal act?!? I'm not sure it could be said to have been specifically protecting those around them, either... Yes, he could've been a muslim. Or a paedo. Under every rock, people of this great empire. Every rock. Empire. Flags. Churchill. Thatcher. Rivers of blood. Etc. Woud have expected better of you hatch - if the guy was interested enough to have a walk through, why the hell should he be considered at all culpable? If a copper tells anyone here to do something unreasonable most of us would refuse or tell them where to go, and rightly so. We all advocate reponsible use of the law and policing powers, no-one likes to be opressed. He was walking away, and even if he had refused 'orders' to take hands out of pockets etc, fair play to him. If a police officer tells me to take my hands out of my pockets for no good reason, I'd refuse as well. Not just being stubborn, but standing up for my rights as an innocent individual.