saint michael

Attack All the defenders have weaknesses and prone to individual mistakes. What they have all lacked I believe is any structure and organisation around them which I would blame the management for. Also think we are weak in midfield defenders and who are incapable of breaking up play retaining the ball and protecting the defence. I am sure RH will help some of this but we def need to change a few players out before we see this get better

Ideally giving full singing end to saints sounds good especially if safe standing gets the go ahead. Don’t think we help ourselves when we insist on letting away team kick towards their fans in second half usually when we are under the cosh Can you tell us what else is being discussed by this group and the club please

Hope so with Viera as manager

Welcome Arsene Wenger

I can believe what you say Nick, their poor fitness is showing in first touch, shooting, and making and moving into space. It’s all so ploddy

I thought that was shockingly bad today. We were playing Newcastle not City... Austin is just a cart horse and is in the past. Ow Hughes has the audacity to stand on the line and have a go at the fans near the end when there was a groan about passing beggars belief. We have an unfit team that are unorganised and untrained. I’m not one for calling for heads but time to F off hughes

Agree with most of that Nick. That feeling of no competition takes away the whole point of sport for me. I just can’t see things are sustainable for us at the moment so something has to change. This owner needs the prem money but looks highly likely to lose it soon. Can see the search for another buyer at some point

I think going down is the least of our problems, with that form it’s almost certain. The club imploding again is of much more concern

Well that was fun wasn’t it... Inept owner..inept Board...inept manager...inept team... pick any, change needed at all levels..we are beyond a quick fix now, need To take some sensible longer term decisions and live with the short term Shyte being served up. Think the set up is getting off very lightly from the fans paying and watching that week in and out

More cross with second half v Brighton Think we have losing mentality rife in club now and cycle will be difficult to break Poor tactics and structure Poor performances Shame cant have clear out from top to bottom and start again. We will go route down league and clear up again before coming back. Also feeling less bothered as really hate prem league more and more. Never really expected winning at Liverpool over the years but always felt like we would give it a go.

Good subject and some good posts. I agree with a lot that say that the game has changed forever and i5 does seem very strange that we enter a competition with zero chance of competing and winning. I still go to spend time with buddies and almost in spite of the footie. We have the conversation about should we stay or should we go many more times these days. I’m caught as a fan between wanting the fairer competition of the championship where we would have chance of winning ( however small it might be after relegation) and feeling like you have to be in the PL because that’s where it’s supposed to be great. I do believe that the model is unsustainable and that a super euro league can’t be far away as the bigger teams outside PL also want the big tv money. I wonder how this would change EPL if this does go ahead. It would affect the 14 other clubs and the championship sides I guess.

I’m more worried that we are off to bad start again this season and puts pressure now on for result against Leicester. Not surprised by defence problems, we saw the same in Vigo game and BMG game. Not addressed problem of HOW to defend never mind WHO is picked for defence. We are going to have to score a lot this year to get wins

Ask if they have Usmanov’s phone number to sell him a new wonderful project and relieve Mr Gao

We’ve spent the money, just a pity that the 45m spent are out on loan . I’m more happy with the signing of players like Armstrong than some of the gambles we have taken recently. They all seem the same light weight and not suited to prem. yes I know someone will quote Mane but the recent past has been bleak. I don’t envy Bournemouth and think they are getting into the cycle we are now in just further down than them. I do wonder why we didnt take a chance on Mawson at 15m looks good bet at that price and is proven in this league. Team really shown up against BMG yesterday against really big strong side we seem to lack any strength in all areas of the team

Glad they didn’t charge us for that today. More of that and they will not be able to give it away. Even Mark hughes looked embarrassed in interview

Cb’s playing too far apart and also not as a unit. Hoedt cannot read the game at all. Midfield running around like chickens with their heads cut off, losing the ball far too easily and unable to win it back. Forwards drop back to get ball. When they do attempt to run beh8nd the ball is never delivered. Too many backward passes again. Will the real Matt Targett stand up. Caught between full back and winger. Not going forward or going back. Think he did one good cross. McCarthy looked jumpy and I’m not surprised. I’m not one to get down but I see that none of the issues have been solved....reel battle here we come

Most of the people seem to be scared off or abused when sharing the bits they have heard. Real shame as think a few people enjoy reading them. Let’s hope we get them back.

Defence for me. It all starts around clean sheets and gives you chance to pinch games. That was Burnley strength last year too. Still want entertainment bu5 having to score 3 goals a game to get draws are not fun...in my opinion

Good replies thanks for comments. I just live in hope that we can buck this horrible trend of buying these merecenaries. There must be some middle position where we develop players that are good prospects. I know... bit of a dreamer on this but can’t see that our present track is any better. Second issue is we seem to have full squad of average players all very similar in their style to be interchangeable.

I still find it a little strange that players like Carrillo can’t be coached to become better. Are we better off not having them around as an option than to have nobody in as we cant afford them. What about players like McGinn for Hibs that Celtic are after. There must be hungry players that are looking to develop name and reputation. This is where we seem to have lost good reputation

City to win league Saints continue to struggle with poor defence issues just about avoiding relegation again Relegated Brighton, Cardiff and Huddersfield Our Chinese owner becomes disillusioned and looks to sell on Board departures happen.

Is that right. Interesting about motivation, would have thought he would have been good at that. He was really straight talking on what he saw was good and on what needed improving and didn’t get overly excited by progress others were getting toooo excite about

I have to say that it was good listening to Glen Hoddle on the tactics and what England need to do to develop further. It still feels like he has a lot to offer as a coach / manager.

I think it’s worrying that you can’t read... I don’t think I mentioned expectations of finishing top 8. I am talking about the link between what we watch on the pitch and board decision making if this isn’t sorted you can forget about any any upward trend