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Here's Brentford's full statement, weirdly, no mention of being ordered to do anything by the Marxists at the PL: Brentford FC can confirm that our players will take the knee before all First Team matches in the coming season. Our players and staff held meetings to discuss whether or not to take the knee at kick-off, having not done so since February. We believe that in the upcoming season the collective cause of tackling discrimination and racism will be best served by acting in unison and solidarity with all our fellow Premier League teams, as was outlined in a statement from the Premier League yesterday, which can be seen here. A joint statement from the football authorities followed this morning. Taking the knee will not on its own solve the problem of racism but it will continue to draw attention to the discrimination that exists within football, as well as society generally. We all saw the support that the act of taking the knee received from fans before matches during Euro 2020. With fans now back at stadiums for the upcoming season we want to play our part in keeping the fight against discrimination at the forefront of the agenda. As well as taking the knee, we will continue to invest our time and energy into taking concrete steps towards making football more respectful, fair and equal for everyone. We will continue to be at the forefront of the fight against abuse and hate on social media platforms. Our actions as a club will also demonstrate our commitment to equality. The Club respects the rights of all individuals to show their opposition to discrimination and racism in whichever way they feel is most appropriate to them. During our meetings to discuss these issues, Ivan Toney told us that he would prefer not to take the knee and will continue to make his own personal statement before matches this season. Brentford FC stands fully behind Ivan’s decision and will continue to support him in any way we can.

"We believe that in the upcoming season the collective cause of tackling discrimination and racism will be best served by acting in unison and solidarity with all our fellow Premier League teams". You obviously fail to understand the "we believe" part.

They stopped taking the knee in the Championship because they felt it was losing its impact, not because they were scared of some Marxist takeover. They obviously feel that showing a united front in the Prem would have more effect.

He probably wanted to explain himself. Do you think the PL should force players not to take the knee then?

Yes but you bell-ends tried to make out any player not doing it would be hounded out the game. The vast majority of fans either respected his decision, didn’t give a shite or probably even notice.

Yeah of course. Looks like it was one of our own who came up with the idea, doesn’t mention it being forced in him by the Marxists at the PL anywhere. https://extra.ie/2020/12/28/sport/soccernews/mcgoldrick-taking-the-knee

It’s all about showing a united front with their colleagues. You have been way off the mark from day one over this, during the pandemic I remember you lot saying there was no way they would take the knee when fans were in the stadium - now they do it to applause every week.

Eh! It’s not compulsory in the Prem you bell-end, it’s always been an initiative driven by the players which is what I have said all along.

No one has said they want it to be compulsory, the SA cricket authorities appeared to have handled it very badly. I guess given their history they are keen to make a statement.

If Newcastle are going to offer silly money then it might be a good opportunity for us and him.

I watched AFC Bournemouth the other week and not one player took the knee, no one cried. no one is forced to do anything.

Brilliant! So after a year and a half of players taking the knee you have finally found someone who was forced to take the knee and it’s nothing to do with football but a cricketer from the most racist country on the planet.

They had some ‘expert’ on the radio about this last week, reckoned there is measures the water companies can easily take to reduce it but as the fines are so low it is more cost-effective to just pump the shit into the rivers/sea untreated and pay the fine.

Not a bad line-up for a second string, probably still get stuffed tho.

I would usually want him to name a strong line-up but the league looks like it’s going to be a right struggle this year so I would rest all the first XI and just take the stuffing.

I don’t think it should be mandatory, I guess given South Africa’s history you can see why their governing body would want to show a united front though. Maybe they know more about Kock’s reasons for opposing it, or maybe they are part of the Marxist takeover who knows?

I thought you would have taken the hint when I didn't answer your dumb question first time. I made a valid point about trans people and suicide and you replied twice asking me if men had a cervix - I would class that as banging on, or you just have some weird obsession with the body part.

See above

Surely if it is a mainly a mental health issue that is even more reason not to bully or take the piss banging on about cervixes etc?

Some trans men do, why are you bothered by it?

Exactly my point, bullying and piss-taking about cervixes or whatever doesn’t help anyone.

What, one game against Wolves?

Ralph has his faults but if we sacked him I would put money on the team getting worse under whoever the cub manage to bring in. I’m a big fan of Howe but I think even he would struggle to get that bunch any higher. We’ve had a tough start and are not in the relegation zone, I don’t think we are under-performing at all, we just don’t have many good players.

Except it is an actual issue. From the centre of suicide prevention: Why are trans people at risk? There are a few factors that put transgender people at risk of suicide, factors that can put strain on one’s mental health and potentially lead to thoughts of suicide: Institutional prejudice manifesting as laws and policies which create inequalities and/or fail to provide protection from discrimination Experience of discrimination (transphobia) in the form of physical or verbal harassment, physical or sexual assault Lack of support from parents and other family members Stress related to fear of transitioning, including the potential backlash and life disruption, as well as considering the risks and sometimes lengthy time period involved Gender dysphoria, or distress related to a conflict between one’s physical or assigned gender and the gender with which they identify That’s why piss-taking about cervixes by dick heads intent on some tragic culture war is not really doing any good to anyone.

Spot on. I think most people generally understand nowadays which is a good thing.