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From the BBC: Why did Mr Johnson lose last week's vote? Many MPs were worried that Mr Johnson would not stick to his pledge to hold the election on 15 October - his preferred date. A motion, under the Fixed Term Parliaments Act, to call an early election does not specify the day it is to take place. Instead, MPs simply voted on whether they agreed with the statement "that there shall be an early parliamentary general election". Senior Labour figures said they would not vote for an early election while there was a risk the prime minister could move the poll to after 31 October - by which point the UK would have left the European Union. If he want to fix the date he could as you say set up a short law "notwithstanding the Fixed Term Parliaments Act" but he didn't.

Think you need to read up on how it works. If Parliament gave the go ahead for an early GE then Boris could pick and choose any date he wanted, Parliament wouldn't have a say.

The timings and reasons for his proroging Parliament are obvious. He knows he has **** all chance of getting a half decent deal wether no deal is on the table or not so is trying to shift the blame onto the opposition.

Of course he would. People said that same ****** about the idea of him shutting down Parliament to force it through.

The polling is irrelevant, if parliament agrees to an early election then all Boris has to do is move the date and we’re out without a deal If that wasn’t Boris’ plan he could easily ask for an election using a different procedure which sets the date in stone.

Don’t expect any answers. All they know is they voted for it, so whatever it is, it has to happen.

And what if the vast majority of the public want neither?

Do you really think forcing the public to choose between a Corbyn government or a no deal Brexit is a fine example of democracy?

You will get one easy.

That’s just nonsense, he doesn’t even need to get a trade deal yet, just a new withdrawal agreement with a workable solution to the NI border. He can’t get it because it just doesn’t exist. To have the Brexit he promised there needs to be a border, it’s that simple.

Nothing stopping Boris going to Brussels and actually negotiating a deal.

And Boris has until the end of September to present his alternative arrangements (which we all know do not exist), hence the current chaos.

So a second refurendum is undemocratic but forcing the public to choose between a Corbyn government and no deal is ok? That’s no choice anyone should have to face, If Boris forces that on us I think he will regret it big time.

Can’t see that happening, I expect both The Tories and Labour will get a kicking if there is a GE.

Peterborough was one of the most pro Brexit constituencies yet voted in Labour a couple of months ago so not sure about that.

That’s probably the problem!

I can’t believe we’re going to face another general election, which will effectively just be a choice between a Corbyn government or a no deal Brexit. Greening is spot on over this: [it] is a lose-lose general election for Britain. A far better way of resolving a path forward on Brexit is to give the British people a direct choice between the different options on Brexit themselves, rather than a messy general election which I believe all the evidence suggests, will be yet again, inconclusive in a route forward on Brexit." Chances are we will end up with another hung parliament and absolutely nothing will change with regards to Brexit.

That’s good news. It’s not the same without fearing for your life on the walk to and from the station.

Except the Northern Ireland border which will have zero controls.

£50 seems like a bit of a threshold for me. I stumped it up for the Liverpool game but don’t think I will again.

Havn’t they always been prepared to give us more time?

Think it will do, many of the usual ‘bingo bus’ away fans tend to get put off by all the agro.

Boring old c*nts

Plus there was a queue of people lining up to buy Saints so it would have been irrelevant what we could cobble together, we couldn't have brought it without serious dough.

That would all be irrelevant anyway, it is essential we pretend the public knew what was being voted for and plough on regardless of how much of a sh!t idea it appears. It is vital that we ignore all facts and experts and just honour the vote.