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So the Conservatives will force through a deal that Parliament has already twice said is sh!t for the country, just to get one over on Labour. Can’t see it myself.

When is the next round of votes then? I thought the next vote was for ‘no deal’ then after they it was for an extension?

If they wanted it to happen they would have voted it through today, waiting a few more days to ask the same question doesn’t make any sense.

No don’t think they can, as it stands on the 29th we have nothing to do with the EU.

Yeah, that went well

Article 50 can only be extended with the EUs permission so they can make us have a second refurendum if they want. The MPs all know this.

And given that NI or the GFA were barely mentioned prior to the first referendum let alone a major issue, that is reason enough alone to have a 2nd.

So if Bradford fans start calling themselves 'Paki Army' or Brighton 'Faggot Army' - you would think that's ok?

I can't see it being voted through, and a no deal definitely wont so that would mean a delay and the EU could insist on a second vote. The best outcome from this mess IMO.

I expect his insistence on using ‘Mr Cortese’ is due to him having a girl’s first name.

I tend to agree with David Baddiel's take on it. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/17/david-cameron-yid-really-is-race-hate-word Wether your Mrs was offended or no doesn't change the fact that for some, Yid is clearly a race hate word. Would you think it's OK for Luton fans to call themselves the Paki Army, or Brighton to call themselves The Faggot Army?

Disgusting behaviour, should be a life ban for anyone chanting that sort of thing. Same goes for Spurs scum chanting Yids. It doesn’t matter where you are there are always a couple of idiots, In 30 odd years of supporting Saints I can only remember hearing a few racist chants. I’ve heard way more at work or at the pub and it’s been more often than not from old, middle classed conservatives.

The death of any baby is tragic, it’s particularly tragic for those forced to flee their homes because of the likes of Shamima Begum and her murder cult.

Valery is obviously going to be a top player, playing him ahead of Cedric wasn't really an issue, it's more the flogging of Cedric without having decent cover if Valery gets injured.

To be fair, you changed your mind then started a whole new thread moaning about what you originally agreed with.

There’s much more to it than policing but yeah, more police would obviously make a difference. The social media thing just makes the need for greater numbers even more urgent. To be honest, having grown up in a leafy, middle class village in Hampshire I’m not exactly an expert in inner city gang culture. But on radio 5 they covered this subject a fair bit and a Police officer, ex gang member/convict turned youth worker and a school teacher were all pretty much in agreement that Tory cuts in police, youth services/clubs and schools have contributed to the problem, as well as greater inequality and social media.

Every case is obviously different but part of community policing (which has been decimated buy Tory cuts) involves the police getting to know youngsters and gaining their trust. Maybe the police could have dealt with nastly little f8cker and stopped him carrying knives long before his beef with your mates son. There’s a lot more to it than just catching people in the act.

It runs deeper but of course more police would help. It's not just about catching kids with knives, it's also about community policing to help prevent kids from getting involved in gangs and having more of a presence to make people less likely to want to carry a knife as a form of self defence. When Tories say "More police wouldn't help" they mean they don't want to pay tax for something that only mainly effects poor, brown people.

Easily Redmond so far.

If I though she would face any sort of appropriate punishment I would welcome her back with open arms. I think we all know if she gets convicted of anything she will get a soft as sh!te sentence and be out spreading her poisonous ideology or maybe planning attacks in no time at all. The decision will probably get overturned but hopefully it will take years. A few winters in a tent over there is better than anything our system will hand out over here.

Great result

Get in. We need to keep at em and get a third.

With Romeo and PEH you can play a back 4 and still have your full backs attack, I would ditch a CB and have Armstrong, JWP and Redmond behind Austin against this shower of ****e.

5 at the back with two holding midfielders at home to Fulham, **** me.

And the guy we brought to replace him can’t even get in the side. The club is a shambles, staying up this year would just be delaying the inevitable.