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Just been cleared up on the other thread Um; the one where you started name calling.

Well done Um, there's me telling 70s Mike that we're capable of discussing things like adults and you start opening your potty mouth. Is that how you spell dinlo anyway?

Um and I are playing very nicely thank you, none of the name calling associated with big boys round here.

Don't worry Um ... Wes has confirmed it for you. He heard Lawrie with his own ears.

yes, managed from 73-85 I believe. And I'd be interested to hear from someone who remembers that era clearly how on earth we were able to put together such a strong team at that time? Whilst the Dell obviously held a lot more in those days, surely we didn't have attendances to rival the big, big clubs, so it couldn't have been down to a huge cash flow. Was it just a case of doing an Allardyce and signing old pros in an attempt to get one more good season out of them?

Thank you for confirming that Lawrie did play a part in proceedings; that's all I was after. So that too confirms that I am justified in not wanting to hear from any of them ever again without being told I'm disrespecting any of them. As you said, the debate of who was most right or wrong is long gone and has been done to death so we shan't bother with that here.

You are a legend. I was just going to try and compose of those myself but you got there quicker.

You can answer my question about whether you feel the account of events given in the written report is valid, or if it completely contradicts your recollection of events.

Weren't the current published prices only valid till 31st July or have I accidentally made that up?

No problems then eh?

Would have thought the two mentioned could do a job in the third division if deployed correctly.

Let's all have a Pardie?

Don't Solent continue to do commentary anyway? But is that just for home games?

You still don't get it do you Um? The discussion has nothing to do with whether the accounts that exist are audio accounts or written reports. I told you that I clearly made a mistake in writing 'sound' when I would used ' written [because the radio solent fans forum audio recordings are frequently made available to us I would have guessed!] but that is only significant if you disbelieve the evidence put forward in the written account. So is that what you're saying? You don't think the account I provided is accurate? It seemed to tally with events as discussed on here around the time of the original meeting so I'd like to see you try and say it was all made up now!

why?

it does if you understand the discussion! Besides, we didn't get relegated with Poortvleit in charge anyway! My point there was that Lawrie was reportedly standing up in front of a room full of crowded people, inc members of the public present due to owning a few shares in SFC, and Jan himself, directing a tirade at Lowe and declaring that SFC would get relegated with "that man" [Jan] in charge. Some people will say they agree with what he was saying, but that's neither here nor there. I'm more interested in the way in which he conducted himself there. It seems aggressive, very offensive to our then current manager and overly emotive. For his wife to then chip in about some silly painting and turn the whole thing into a farce, while our club was slowing being ripped to shreds, is abosolutely ridiculous. Whilst those with power should have been doing there best to formulate a plan that would have given us the best chance of survival for the season, they were too busy arguing, and communication had clearly broken down to the extent that nobody was helping to stabilise the situation. Moreover, by playing their part in the squabbles, all present were continuing to destabilise the club. That's what I was showing, but Um is still waiting for the audio transcript before he makes up his mind. He doesn't believe Lawrie did anything.

Um! You ruined Wes's game!

I've been discussing this with Reading people over the last couple of days and they are naturally very, very bitter about Pardew due to the way in which he left them! It's interesting to note that Pardew's record is actually better than Coppell's at Reading though! One things that does come up time and time again about him is that he says the right things for the benefit of the cameras even if he is saying different things (apparently!) behind close doors. There was the West Ham incident in which he was 'caught' slagging off their fans, which may be where the weight of theses accusations come from. Also, there have been claims that he's a bit naive (they said thick, but naive is perhaps a little gracious) and the 'controversies' section of his wiki page will give you more detail on this. Pardew seems to have left all 3 clubs under a huge cloud of negativity and praise for him is hard to find frm his ex-fans, but then not many managers manage to make leaving a positive thing do they?

Prob the one I posted the other day! It was excellent.

That would be hilarious!

You're really hung up on that point Um when I never suggested they were the cornerstone of my argument; it's you that keeps saying so! It's you that started banging on about evidence, even though you know as well as I do what went on in the boardrooms of St Marys over the past few months; at a level necessary to engage in this debate anyway, i.e. was Lawrie squabbling with the rest of them? yes! I'm still waiting to see if you're going to claim that he played no part in the squabbling at all but you're avoiding that one!

You failed to read the post the first time and posted something which showed that was so. I thought it might help you if it was posted twice. If you wish to get involved in the discussion then do so, if you wish to have a childish (or macho as you call it) slanging match, go somewhere else.

I guess it does indirectly. He's the Chief Operations Officer isn't he? Is that the full title? It seems to imply he should be overseeing everything so I'd expect him to be present on match days. If he wasn't there, you can bet there would be a thread on here after a couple weeks suggesting that he wasn't doing his job properly!

Who on earth is guy the snake?