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Are you really admitting to thinking Wigley was a good appointment??? This is the same Wigley who ruled himself out six months earlier!!!!!

Indeed it is a tough decision and a decision that will have a massive impact on the Club, which is why I would advocate ruling out promoting "nice" coaches from within, or from scouring the Dutch lower leaues for Revolutionary Coaches!!!!!!!!!!!! I think alot of the time it's a lottery, but we didn't even give ourselves an outside chance with some of our recent appointments.

Because like Ron I think promoting someone who is expereinced from within is not the best way to go and you were trying to counter that by suggesting Ted Bates was a success. Of course he was, but I was pointing out that that was over 50 years ago and so hardly relevant

IMHO I think the single biggest factor in generating these numbers is the empathy between the Board/Owners and the fans. I get the impression their Board value their fans and their fans hold their Board in high regard. It may even have something to do with being run in the past by someone as despised Lowe in Chase, in that they can see that this Board have shown by their words and deeds to really care for the Club.

He was also the Fourth Bear before he got banned. With dynamic IP addressing and the ease of getting new email address its not exactly difficult to re-register.

Using the appointment of a manager 50 years ago is probably not the best way about getting your point across.

And an addendum to your retort would be (we still lost cash out the door in Lowe's season of 05/06 even after bringing in £16m from player sales. This was also the season where Lowe "didn't know where the next penny was coming from!"). Ship shape and solvent???? About as watertight as Sundance's claims he's not NineteenCanteen LOL.

Exactly. I don't think people are actually crucifying Schneiderlin, merely pointing out that in our precarious position it probably wasn't wise to splash the cash on a young prospect, when (a) we were skint and (b) we needed someone who could come into the team and make an immediate impact.

Would like to see Jurgen Streppel on the poll.

The interviews on Radio Hampshire came across somewhat differently. Kelvin was clear that he was more than happy to stay on and if a new contract was offered to him then he would have no problems finishing his career down here and playing in League One. Surman was much more circumspect and non committal. When asked about playing in league One he was very much of the "I'll cross that bridge when I come to it, you never know what's around the corner" type of reply. I definitely sensed a mrkes difference between their responses.

In which case you need to steer clear of making stupid assertions because Dodd and Gorman were not Burley's repacements, just as Wise and Bassett weren't Redknapps and Wigley wasn't Strachans!!!! Burley's replacement was Pearson and his short stint was on a par with Burley's final run of games. And of course many think he could have pushed on from that, but we all know what happened next...........

So how come you missed out all the quotes from the same round of interviews on 7th February: "we will not be rushed into an appointment", "It allows the Club more time over the hunt for a replacement", "We always said we would take our time to make sure we appoint the right person" It allows the Club to take their time over the hunt for a replacement for George Burley. ?????????????

And as for keeping Wotte than it's a big No No for me. And before people go on about stability, then I'm afraid stability cannot justify compunding the initial error and sticking with someone who is not up to the job. He was integral to the Revolutionary Coaching Set Up and must take his share of the blame for 28 games that delivered less than a point a game. He was also misguided in hs initial outbursts and failed to engender any rapport and spirit of unity with the supporters. And then of course there is his performance over the 18 games he has been in charge for. A return of 19 points which would if extrapolated over a season would have had us on 48/49 points, still not enough to save us from being relegated!!!!!!

Of course he was. If you're trying to intimate it was Dodd and Gorman who were his replacements then you're talking jibberish. They were only ever caretakers, and even if you try and suggest that the "foreseeable future" quotes suggested they were permanent, then you conveniently missed the following quotes from the same interviews around 7/8th February. "we will not be rushed into an appointment", "It allows the Club more time over the hunt for a replacement", "We always said we would take our time to make sure we appoint the right person" It allows the Club to take their time over the hunt for a replacement for George Burley.

I agree wholeheartedly and as you say £1.2m for an unproven youngster who the Head Coach has not seen at a time when we're up against it financially does look bonkers. Throw in the fact that we needed strong experienced players as we already had our ful quota of youngsters and it starts to look terrible. For all those who say we were skint and had no options/choice, the simple reply is Poortvliet and Schneiderlin, because in them we made two very, very, very poor decisions that ultimately have cost us big time.

A really quality post that asks many pertinent questions.

Considering the fragile position we were in on and off the pitch then Shcneiderlin's signing would appear to have been very poor value for money. In this instance it was the context of the signing that caused a stir. Throw in the fact that our Head Coach didn't appear to have signed him and never saw him play, then you do start scratching your head about just what was going on. But we have also had many duffers in the past. Speedie and Dixon in return for Shearer still makes me cringe. We then had a rash of players who IMHO never delivered e.g Ripley £2.5m!!, Howells (big wages) , Hughes (wages), Groves, Hirst £2m. Have we had more than our fair share?? Have we always seemed to buy many at mid range prices that then don't deliver?? Or are we exactly the same as many other clubs out there??

That's the problem when you have multiple identities, get banned and pop up again to carry on your trolling, as it must be difficult to keep up with which one of your personalities said what to whom;) A very manly way of apologising, third hand through someone else LMFAO. Your reputation is enhanced with every post you make up here:rolleyes: No, I just consider you a bll shtter who had to have numerous posts removed for trying to spread scurrilous stories about others. Quite fetching when you consider in one of your last posts you were commenting on the potentially libellous claims up here when in fact you're at the front of the queue for having yours pulled. So talking about Sundance in the third person now means we're all thrown off the scent of you and your multiple trolling personalities LOL:D You've fooled us there:smt117

NDA's will have been signed to protect the various confidential or sensitive bits of information that these parties will now be privy to (contract terms, employee contracts etc etc etc) and to stop them getting out into the public domain. But IMHO, NDA's do not restrict individuals/consortiums from declaring themselves as being interested in buying the Club (or it's assets).

You've never sent me a PM!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Although someone called SundanceBeast set me many LMFAO:D;) Do you think it would be naughty to share them with others up here??? What's Fashanu up to nowadays and what do you make of Portsmuff winning the Cup???

Personally I would say it was nothing like Hoddle for a number of reasons. McMenemy had been here 12 years or so and given us good service He had turned down a number of other offers (Leeds, Man Utd, Newcastle), He had been successful with us, He left in the close season, as opposed to leaving us high and dry, I don't remember then manner of him leaving being underhand, sly or deceitful. Even in those "olden days", 12 years as a manager was a decent stint. And turning down quite a few lucrative and more tempting offers showed quite a degree of loyalty to us. I can understand why people might be bitter and resentful at Eyal Berkovic, or maybe even Redknapp or Hoddle, but struggle to see why we should get all bitter over someone who gave us 12 decent years, success and who also turned down a number of lucrative offers in that period.

But he was chasing the money and glamour of the Premiership and we had little chance of holding on to him as a second tier club (the Wigley connection didn't help either). Just one of those things when you're a Div 2 team, in that the Premiership will take a gamble on youngsters as they have the money to burn.

Collect it and pipe it through the undersoil pipes, or collect the bullsht and spread it over the training pitches at Staplewood;)

In which case, methinks you need to learn to read young man;)

Strange one all round and someone who suffered from playng under 4 different mangers in 2 years (that's excluding Wise, Bassett, Gorman & Dodd!!!). Came here and played well during his initial loan, only to be treated with disdain at the start of the following season by the same manager (Burley) who had made his move permanent !!!!! Never seemed to recover and John became the star man. Then the following summer was frozen out by the Revolutionary Coaching Set Up and loaned out. Comes back and IMHO not used/motivated well by Wotte. I'm sure Saga's attitude and commitment can be doubted, but the circumstances he has had to put with haven't helped (not that they have helped many to be honest!!!).