Miltonaggro

There is a lot of contrition in that statement, I would imagine that the oral submission today would be much more robust than round one, effectively reading the EFL its horoscope.

I doubt that given the money in professional football, but more to do with Solak's wishes as Chairman. His fans seem to think that he's a principled strongman, guess we find out very soon.

With a fair wind at least these fuckers wont be able to afford the fireworks, goal music and marching band next season.

Cheers. I think regardless of the situation in the last 48 hours SFC will go to law, they have to really.

Not really potential miracles, rather quite rudimentary / common commercial litigation procedures. If the remarkable rumour about Phil Parsons clumsily admitting wrongdoing to Gibson et al., in the Middlesbrough boardroom on the Saturday is true, the undermines any case (in a tribunal or at law) from the outset. This is then exacerbated by apparent thinking that admission to the other two charges, and the knowledge of TE (which the public weren't aware of until yesterday) and working to the EFL compressed timescale would somehow work to our advantage or act as mitigation. My thoughts on the radio silence was that it was a sign of advised competence (strategic) whereas it looks like it was masking incompetence. The silence is continuing and currently we are still missing most of the facts to map a path of causation. I think the appeal today will prove fruitless, that's what the four point penalty is for - to use as a sop / bargaining chip for the 'new' panel - they will absolutely insist on the sporting sanction - the comment that Parsons has found a 'loophole' seems idiotic. Saints will likely refuse that and commence litigation (along the lines of my original post for disproportionality and commercial loss) on conclusion of the appeal. Likely an announcement will be made later today by the EFL that the final will be postponed. SFC still have a chance at law, but this appears to have been diminished and greatly undermined by the actions of their staff and the approach to the hearing.

Jack shit reasons currently!

If people are looking for silver linings I had this notification on Facebook this morning. Swings and roundabouts!

and the season before, that. This is a different situation.

Much depends on Solak. Whatever he has said in the past he is the epitome of the ‘hands off’ owner. Putting a series of docile bodies between himself and any actual direction of the club, his visits seem to be a round of golf and a match / board meeting. We’ve been told he is a fighter, the man who took on the Serbian government and won, well let’s see if he’s willing to fight the EFL. With litigation bubbling along in the background, options are to move on the major assets, pull out and sell, or go scorched earth with the deadbeats in the coaching set up and management / board and invest heavily in an all or nothing push for autos next season - with any ‘stars’ that want out replaced with hit the ground running quality. Guess we will find out over the next fortnight.

Likely to be out of our hands to an extent, but if club want to retain his services an honest / brutal dialogue with the players as a group is needed asap. Who’s staying who wants out, who would want to play for TE again?

If only!

Rumour is he was the sperm donor for 28000 of them, The Boys From Boro...

Now then, now then!

That was my first thought, an attempt at backslapping bonhomie with known snides like that suggests naivety in the extreme.

Yes, essentially he gave them all the ammo they needed at this point. Imbecile.

That looks like Parsons trying to save face / his own arse, there.

Very different club then.

Jordan Belfort.

Fucking hell, Should have known better than to exclude this from my Sport Republic bingo card.

Goodness me, what an absolute mess. I think the position for most of us was that this was a one off, an aberration, but by the look of it it was systemic, planned and remarkably admitted to in the written submission to the hearing - hence the radio silence, culpability likely known from the outset. You can only assume that by admitting to breaching the rules in three games we failed to win, the club were advised that they would likely be shown leniency. Until the report is published or the club make a statement we are kept guessing on the facts. Admission means that we are appealing against a disproportionate sanction tomorrow morning, and it is clearly disproportionate, though the best case there is that they might waive the four point deduction. Likelihood is that litigation commences as soon as the appeal concludes including an injunction in terms of postponing the final but the linkage / admission means that there is diminished chance of success here. Litigation between SFC and the EFL will rumble on for financial compensation but the supporters are unlikely to see any benefit from this. I feel gutted, genuinely sorry for fellow Saints fans, and the players that sweated to get us to Wembley. Back to criminal law for me, I feel more comfortable in reading the people there.

The four other clubs that have bravely taken the stand against Saints have advised that Tonda was seen on Ross Stewart's shoulders at their training grounds. Photo is the dastardly duo running away at Wrexham.

He's going to be pissed off when the snide standing order kicks in.

Kindest thing would be a quadruple with Boro and Wrexham. A bona fide Franklin Mint collectors item!

It will if we recall Tall Paul...

No fucking way I am going to Whitby or Scarborough!