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I don't know that what I've posted is FACT - it's more of an educated guess really. But yes, you're right, it does pepper the FL's argument with shot if it is the case. Maybe that's what the appeal will centre on?

It depends on your circumstances really as to whether you buy. If you know you're going to be in the area for quite a while and / or are about to start / already have a family, it might be a good idea to do it now. My daughter and her husband have just started looking - they've recently had their first baby. But they qualify for one of the Catalyst mortgages as he's a teacher. But if you move around a lot and / or your job's not secure and / or you have no real family committments, you might as well rent ATM. It's a renter's market, so to speak.

It's a company in its own right Isn't it?????????? But it's part of the parent company SLH in the same way as SFC is. Isn't it?????????? I think it was originally set up as a Special Purpose Vehicle so it's probably a joint venture between SLH and SMS Ltd - but I don't know that for sure.

Yes I have, Jan - great idea Roswell!

Frank, with all due respect, you can't ring-fence debt like that. An equally valid statement could be that the debt with Barclays is almost the same as the loss of revenue since ...... well, since Mr Lowe. The debt is due to a number of factors, surely. But it's picked up speed as we've gone downhill. Or, as Trousers would say,

Is that right? :confused: Let's say, for argument's sake, that SLH is the parent company of: SFC SMS Staplewood Training Enterprises Jackson's Farm potential home for the bewildered Surely the buyer of any one of these entities doesn't assume the SLH debt but rather the sale of these goes towards the funds to settle the debts. Just because someone buys the club, they don't automatically assume responsibility for any or all the other debts, not even the stadium.

Then I see a flaw because, no doubt, the receipt is handed over with the tickets? So I will have revealed my name, address and last four digits of my card number. Darn it :neutral:

I think he's sexy :oops:

How easy would that be? I've just bought two but I can't go to the match. They are available to be picked up from the Box Office. Is it enough just to state the reference number and stand / block / seat number or would the debit card have to be shown? If the card doesn't have to be shown and someone genuinely knows of two people as Janet mentions above I'd be more than happy to pass them on.

Just bought two tickets although I can't go.

Well spotted Trousers, me ol' mucker! Sacking two directors because they won't vote for our Rupey eh? I wonder if they've had to sign an NDA

Or that each has the requisite funds, but only just. Together, they'll have more than enough. Yours sincerely Mrs Half Glass Full

It seems to me that Mark and Derry have got the measure of these disparate groups. I know it's been said before but can I thank Mark and Derry again for all their efforts on our behalf. Even if those efforts come to nothing (heaven forfend) then at least they tried. Thanks guys.

And, it seems, questions about who actually owns them are being asked again: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/apr/24/portsmouth-owebership-arkadi-gaydamak He who laughs last ............

Pray, do tell Oh actually I couldn't give a flying f**k if he's got problems elsewhere.

Me too. It's made me think how difficult it must be to be a journeyman footballer, forever having to up sticks and move on. It must be very difficult for the families. I do hope 'we' can find a way to keep him on.

How, by setting up a parent / child relationship between SLH and SFC can we have 'cheated the system'? As many have already said, the 'system' didn't exist until some years after we had set up our structure. Or did Lowe, amongst his many other talents , have precogniscence as well? If so, why on earth didn't he forsee the events of the last couple of days?

Source? I'm a socialist - I voted for this party because it was the best on offer. Anything was preferable to the previous shower of ****e, that's for sure. You bet your sweet life we would have been in this mess had the Conservatives been returned, just as other economies, most of them 'conservative' are.

According to this article: http://www.builderandengineer.co.uk/features/features/is-this-the-end-of-pfi-1887.html 4th sentence down: Changes to the international accounting standards will force it to bring £30bn of PFI liabilities onto the public balance sheet from 2009 to 2010 I don't know if this has appeared in the Red Book - I imagine it will since this applies to the current financial year. If that's the case, then the argument that PFI is off balance is now untrue.

That'll be the PFI that the Tories introduced in the 90s then. And before you argue, yes they did. I was working on a PFI scheme in 97, just before the election. We were about to go to Financial Close and had to have a moratorium on the deal because of the General Election. As a socialist, I've always been opposed to PFI and it will die in the water now as the financiers won't be able to make a killing by renegotiating their deals to a lower interest rate. Greedy bankers, tch.

Will he be able to balance our books I wonder. Let's hope there's some movement soon. Are there two coats on your hook?

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Somebody pointed out before that he's probably needed to help Mr Tointon (sp?) understand the books. Mind you, what that says about the books, heaven only knows.

It just goes to show that, even with that level of debt, this country recovered. I don't know what GB's excuse is. However, he might well say that, along with every other major economy in the world, we have had to increase our national debt to deal with the recession. As has already been pointed out, our national debt as a % of GDP is less than many other major economies and even the IMF reckons we'll be better able to recover than many others.

Another one on that Business Times link is J Magnier, a horse owner. I wonder if Mike Channon knows him?