Kermitzasaint

Whilst we were mostly an attacking side we conceded pretty much at will. Our weakness was well known and often exploited by other poorer sides. Many fans try and cherry pick results to suit their narrative. Russell Martin has shown the exact same weakness at each side he has coached. To say he is suddenly capable of much better is to claim that our weakness was a coached choice. That argument is nonsensical. Can only judge Russell based on what he has shown so far. Whilst he may improve in time I can't see any sudden improvements especially in a significantly stronger league.

Considering Russell Martin's well known defensive frailties in a lower league, I think you're going to be horrified by what will happen.

Must remember that it's not just the squad. Russell Martin has never been able to organise/coach defence or midfield. Unless RM suddenly learns how to to do this, we will get hammered regardless of our squad

Why? Show me where I said I didn't want to get promoted? Financially it's a good thing. Just a shame it won't last.

How will recruitment help when it's Russell Martins style that causes us to concede at will. He demands suicidal back passing, he demands our wide players give the opposition room to cross in the box. Remember, we concede at will with mostly EPL players in a pitiful league. Why on earth do you think he will suddenly change? Your argument that much better players may negate RM's ridiculous style is even more reason to get rid.

If we go up RM will we take us straight down again. If we stay down our squad will be weakened and will have to start all over again with an even poorer midfield and defence. Where is the upside to Russell Martin again?

Win or lose, RM won't achieve anything. The longer he stays, the longer we will slowly drop down the league as money dries up. Whilst there is the occasional nice move, the inevitable RM style has us conceding at will. My hope is there is someone else dumb enough to poach him from us. RM is smart enough to know his time at any club is limited due to his style.

What's worse? The fact we play as if we are 3 goals up or the fact that either of two poor teams can get promoted?

Manning is up front??

Your use of the word 'incredible' is amusing. Even when we had our run we looked very shaky in lots of areas.

With a decent coach (not RM) I think he could be a hell of a player. RM hasn't improved a single player since arriving. I wished I was wrong about him but he is a nothing coach. Mediocre and average. It's soo very Saints to screw this up

Yet RM decimated the midfield through bizarre substitutions. He weakened the team bringing on further pressure that led to the loss. That's not his fault either?

Once ffs.

Russell Martin is exactly what we were told he was. An average coach who has an obsession with playing a certain style with a zeal that borders on mental illness. I got plenty of abuse over not embracing his style and personality. Even during our unbeaten streak I was never convinced. As a coach his style doesn't suit our budget so had we gotten promoted we would get slaughtered. I don't think we will win in the play off's and I think RM has had Saints under perform massively. It was cursed to fail as soon as he was chosen. So far the season highlight has been Gio's freak out.

Same thing could be said about the entire team and Russell Martin.

Your obsession with RM is beyond tedious now.

The irony that only two games ago it was stated that Saints had reached a point where the Lego head haters had to fall in to line and accept Martin's greatness. Now we are back to RM football in all it's ponderous excruciating best. He is insufferable. The 'Always' of football coaching. He is exactly what we were warned he would be.

This is why I don't understand why, after one single decent game against a poor side, that Lego head is suddenly the messiah. I want consistent good performances before I can have my opinion changed.

Why are you so desperate for attention?

So why does he tend to play slow ponderous possession based football most of the time ( with little success) ? Also at his previous two clubs. Its interesting that SR also did a forum explaining his 'style' and Saints media has been pushing his agenda. But you just ignore all that 😅

Because we didn't play the slow ponderous play that RM likes. It's interesting that when RM knows that fans don't like him he let's the guys play. As soon as he feels safe he goes back to his excruciating slow style.

I don't want RM to fail. I just can't see him succeeding. His teams have the worst defensive record. They play slow ponderous football. The tactics and line ups are often baffling. RM football is like playing with a deliberate handicap and it's frustrating as hell. RM then insists that this handicap will remain regardless of the fact that he has never had any success with it in his career. The only times we look good is when we move quickly which goes against the RM philosophy.

Sorry. I meant a positive visible effect. Not what RM has done. Can see how you were confused

Completely irrelevant but you already know that. Chelsea are a totally different side to what we were when he came to us. I realise you are one of the main promoters of RussellBall but no matter how much you big him up, it's obvious it's not working.