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I'm not sure there are any jobs where you are 'forced' to get a vaccine. How many times do I need to point out that INTERNATIONAL travel is not the same as going to the pub or a nightclub? Are you unable to see the difference between travelling to another country - that may well have different laws - and going for a pint? Not only that, there are very few countries that INSIST on a vaccine and the relevant certificate before entry is allowed. The majority are only 'recommendations' to protect the traveller which individuals can choose whether they have or not - does that remind you of any other vaccine currently in the news?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55406939

Going to a nightclub or a pub is not the same as International travel 'War footing'

I'm not trying to justify anything I know to be wrong, that's just you comforting yourself. There is nothing compelling anyone to have the vaccine, it's not illegal to not have it. Right and wrong doesn't come into despite HRH telling everyone to do their 'duty'. What would be wrong would be forcing people to declare their medical history by insisting on a vaccine passport.

I thought we were going to be eaten by Tigers?

Intuition

I see your point and the study from April to June last year (published in November) proves it perfectly. It doesn't include any of the new, more virulent stains of the disease though, which according to UK scientists are spread far more readily amongst children.

Excellent news. The police have carried out an investigation and concluded it was a racist attack. Not only that, they arrested and charged someone. Good job well done and I for one am glad the police have taken a racist scum bag off the streets and not jumped to any conclusions.

Yep, hence why the police are investigating rather than intuitively concluding that to be the entire story.

To be fair, amongst the click bait in the echo article, the victim claims they shouted racist abuse before the attack...

Doubt it, you'd still be looking at the exhibits in the zoo...

What about people who don't like university lecturers, or are they intuitively discounted?

Not a lot of that makes sense. Children don't pose a lower risk (of transmission), hence why they closed the schools, keep up. Children do have a lower risk profile when it comes to ending up in hospital seriously ill. Perhaps you've got yourself all confused and muddled up the two completely different concepts.

That's two people who won't be able to pass on the infection to someone who has been vaccinated. That's how vaccinations work. I've highlighted the relevant bit from my previous question that you've ignored...

Not sure what your point is! Because a country with a very long history of human rights violations has introduced vaccine passports, then the UK economy couldn't possibly recover quickly without them as well? Nice to see you've ignored the question about medical ethics, too tough for you?

I'll take that as you have no idea how to answer that one then Easy to call someone 'thick' and then not be able to back it up, eh?

To be fair, Turkish hasn't said he no longer has the ability to process information and act intuitively when the situation dictates, he's just stated that through self development he has learnt to apply logic and restraint instead of jumping to conclusions without considering all of the available information. Shame this self development phase seems to have passed you by

Go for it, enlighten me, let me into the secret of how a 19 year old who has refused a vaccine is more likely to pass on the virus to someone who has had a vaccine than a sixteen year old who isn't eligible for a vaccine....

Absolute horseshit! The most reluctant age groups to take up the vaccine are 18-29. The same age group that is statistically one of the least likely to end up in hospital, so hospitals won't be overrun as a result of that age group refusing the vaccine. The economy can quite quickly get moving without the need for vaccine passports. Have you considered medical confidentiality or is that not important anymore? Should we make people wear a gold star on their chest if they have herpes or a silver one if they have chlamydia, I mean, how else would you tell right?

Ah right, that explains why they closed the schools....

Not sure why people are getting so upset that a minority are refusing to have a jab. Presumably those that are upset about it are planning to have their own jab when they are eligible / have already had it. If so, what the fuck are you worried about? You will have been vaccinated and therefore protected. What difference will it make to you if someone else has their vaccine or not? Surely they only pose a risk to themselves if they refuse... Give it a couple of weeks after I've had mine and I won't give a shiny shit who sits near me on a plane or train as I know my risk will be diminished to the point of being barely more than a heavy cold.

You're kidding right? Is someone who has refused the jab, more, or less likely than a kid to pass on the virus if they are infected? There is no difference if neither of them have a vaccination passport. That flight to Malaga will be out of reach to both...

Employment requirements are very different to shopping / leisure requirements! What about kids, they aren't currently planned to be vaccinated, so won't be eligible for a vaccination passport. How are they any different to someone who has refused the jab?

Turn it on it's head - what right do private companies have to demand you meet certain criteria before they take your money? Would this open a can of worms, first there's an insistence on having had a covid jab, then an insistence that you've had an MMR, flu jab, tetanus booster etc etc.

Thank goodness they've finally come to their senses! No more misogyny from Hasbro. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56200811