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Old fashioned and unconventional opinion perhaps. But having had prior experience of four wins from four games, perhaps in assessing his capabilities to be a permanent boss we will learn more from how he reacts to this defeat than we have in the first four games? If he goes and collects six points from the Brum and WBA games, arguably in the long run he is a better appointment to make than having known nothing but (very short term) success?
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As many others have said, it’s only three games and there is every sense in leaving a decision until after Millwall. But I have been surprised how impressive the uplift is. So far he seems to have two major strengths which aren’t to be under estimated: - he seems capable of motivating and galvanising the dressing room - he has figured out a system and pattern of play that suits the players available. Back three rather than a back five way of playing wing backs, quick transition after breaking the press, and movement and ball on the floor upfront.
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Really enjoyed that. Bragg was a strong full debut and we were genuinely impressive first half as a team. I think the style of play Eckert is orchestrating is a good blend of Martin playing out of the back rather than mindless hoofing it up to a midget (a la Still) but with a difference, which is as soon as we have broken the press we then attack with pace. Under Martin we would often recycle back all over again.
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I would love to be proved wrong, but I am fearful that Eckert will lack the experience and presence needed when we hit a tough patch. And so right now I would still be looking externally. However I think we are in an intriguing time of the season where, unless we make an appointment over this next week, it is highly likely that Eckert will be in charge for three more games, not one. There will be limited opportunity to prepare anything too radical between the Charlton and Leicester games, and again then between Leicester and Millwall. After that there is a whole week before the next game again so Birmingham, and so assuming it is external you would guess it will be someone in the stand watching Millwall game and then taking training from the Monday. If you accept this assumption, then things get super interesting. Imagine Eckert takes seven, or even nine, points from those three fixtures. It then becomes hard NOT to appoint him from the perspective of Sport Republic. In my opinion this is unlikely, as while I expect QPR and Sheff We’d to both be in bottom half, I think all of Charlton, Leicester and Millwall are play off candidates. But regardless of our individual opinions (and I repeat I think we should go external) you can see a scenario that he almost ends up appointing himself with three more good results in a week!
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As others have pointed out, we don’t have a great record of caretakers then being appointed permanently. Gray, Wigley and Selles were all unsuccessful after promising starts.
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For anyone taken in by this, click on MB’s “exclusive” revelations in Jan window😂😂😂
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Quite frankly the views of fans about SR are at rock bottom. And there isn’t going to be a ready made popular genius turn up. So I do genuinely get your point, and it’s a shame that some fans will feel it’s a slap in the face, but if SR genuinely believe he is right man for the job they should appoint him. Fans are fickle and a few wins in the noise will go.
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Other than erudite comments such as “fuck that skate”, I have yet to hear any compelling argument as to why O’Neil should be excluded. Older fans well remember Horne and Crouch being hugely popular players despite formerly playing for Pompey, and Viafara was pretty popular too. None of whom ever gave less than a shift and in Crouch’s case was player of the season. From personal family knowledge I can assure you that people inside the game look at what is in their professional interests, and if the right opportunity comes up will not give these issues much thought. And to repeat, he grew up as Millwall fan. Like all the other clubs he played at, he recalls good times. So what? Moving away from all this, what is indisputable is that he clocked up two successful season at unfancied Premier League clubs. Bournemouth had just been promoted, shipped nine at Anfield and sacked Parker. He stepped in and guided them to mid table safety. For a newly promoted side that is excellent. Then at Wolves Lopertegi walked out the week before the season started saying squad was inadequate to survive. Again he led them to comfortable mid table finish. Great job. Following season he was sacked midway through. It happens. Strachan, Potch and Koeman were all sacked earlier in their careers, and then subsequently. You can bet if he gets the job he will be desperate to succeed, and the above track records suggests if he can get us up he has much better chance of keeping us up than Martyn and many others do. So if appointed put the childish stuff to one side.
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Yes I watched it. It starts with “I grew up as a Millwall fan”
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I would be very happy with O’Neil. Hope everyone who says “no skate” didn’t celebrate Crouch being our player of the season 20 years ago…
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On the train and relieved to win. Unrealistic to expect champagne football after our awful run, so a scrappy backs to the walls win is fine in my book. Will hopefully lift the mood. Thought we looked more composed with Stephens in the back and there was one moment when he and THB absolutely took strips off Azaz for another lame piece of defending. Don’t think we deserved to win in all honesty but it makes up for Swansea when we certainly did.
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Good post. To get automatic promotion, the original goal, it needed two points per game to finish on 92. Usually enough. What you are pointing out, correctly, is that FROM HERE we need to hit the originally required run rate to achieve play offs. No evidence that we will, but shows it’s not a miracle required with the right coaching and right investment in January.
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Have results validated his decision?
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Gary O’Neil has just withdrawn from the Wolves job. In my opinion he would be an excellent choice. Yes he played for Pompey, but he grew up in London and isn’t a Pompey fan. We have had Crouch and JWP who have become popular players who either played or were raised there, along with Alan Ball who managed them before us (admittedly having played for us). Did a great job at Bournemouth taking over from Parker, then did great job at Wolves taking over just before start of season. Was sacked by Wolves in second season, his first taste of disappointment. But looks like they wanted him back. As Steve Grant said on TSP, it would be high risk as he would not get a honeymoon period with some fans, but for me would be very credible.
