saintstowin

We're a busted flush, containing bad apples, run by snake oil salesmen, holding a one way ticket to a two bit town at the end of the line. 2-1 to Saints.

I heard Warnock (Stephen) on MotD referring to the Chelsea interim manager and his age and job responsibilities. He said U21 managers are used to reviewing games after they've been played (presumably making some in-game changes too) with more of an eye on next time rather than right now. So learning that way. And it is only the better (experienced) managers that adapt during games, in ways that affect matches as they happen. I guess much of this is true and well known, but it was interesting to hear. And made me think about the lack of experience we are relying on. You wouldn't expect a 20 year old player to suddenly carry the team in terms of performance and leadership. He would come in and out. I was excited by the change and wins but reality has bitten.

I'm Christmas confused. I had the game in my head for the weekend and definitely not on TV. I'll watch but only if they promise to do good football things.

A stat before the Birmingham game said we were last and second last in the division for goals conceded and (I think) shots or chances conceded - away from home. I didn't realise it was quite that stark. So something is obviously terrible. I think we were protected somewhat the last time we were in the championship by the sheer volume of possession. And even then we conceded way too many considering our dominance. With some similar names in defence and less dominance especially away it's no surprise we're rubbish. The issues run deeper than formation, but having said that, surely getting more time on the ball further up the pitch (with 4 at the back and that spare player contributing in midfield) we would take pressure off a dodgy defence who clearly cannot cope for any length of time.

When there's an under performance this bad it's a team effort on and off the pitch. But something isn't working with decisions from the sideline. We can't take Scienza off with an eye on the next game and do badly in the one taking place at the moment! And Fellows was often ignored or not quite in the game, until he was well in it, and at that precise moment he's hooked. It was crystal clear that our total dominance (albeit ineffective) would suffer with those decisions.

That was a 2-1 defeat so early on it's a shame I'm not a betting man. Even before the first goal, but absolutely nailed on at half time. It's unacceptable to have more than 2/3 of the ball and have fewer shots on target than them. And the fact that only 1/3 of the many passes were forward says it all. The only time we looked dangerous was when we had some bottle and played quickly. I just don't know why this seems so hard to do consistently. Scienza was frustrating at times today but subbed so early. Azaz had a stinker. I know he's come up with some goals etc but he has no control of games. Too many well off it today. Pretty unacceptable defeat all things considered.

Fully deserved defeat. Any missed pen and wrong goal discussion will simply detract from looking properly at how bad that was and what to do about it. Awful, awful performance.

Anders Svensson had a decent time with us but I recall I always hoped he'd kick on a bit more in terms of attacking threat and running games - like he seemed to do for his country. His output was defensive midfielder but his style wasn't.

I haven't checked my Tessem stats but my recollection is that he brought energy and versatility to the team and played several positions from defence to attack. I liked him.

Asking less good players who don't play as much to come on and be composed and creative, and keep the ball for periods of time when the team is generally in defend mode will rarely work. In some games it has felt like two different teams out there. The second half team has the feel of a weakened cup team. In the front positions. We'll need to find the balance between our best XI and what happens next. I hope it will often include keeping more of the best XI on for longer. It's the number of games, the intensity of the first hour etc, but I also feel the number of substitutions is now expected to be 4/5 rather than 2/3, and this is disruptive.

He's been great and I'm really pleased for him. And playing to his strengths is key. He was unsurprisingly ineffective with balls in the air and took unfair flak. I always hoped he could make it work in the middle because for a while he was taking up a space out wide. And although he did well there in the last championship season, we needed Fellows to come good this time. AA is a striker so it's brilliant for us and him that he's coming good, again.

OR's first comeback yellow I think. And very unlucky getting it for having his head smashed into. I thought Downes' foul directly after it was the cynical yellow card type foul.

Some of that 2nd half was inept. I would have preferred the change to be put on hold when they got their first. I think we need to get the ball to Scienza more at the start of second halves. I don't see how taking off the four most effective players is a good plan. And hats off to how we dealt with that low cross near the end. I've not seen defending like that in many years. How many players missed it?! This is not to ignore the lovely play we did manage.

Some pretty underwhelming ties overall, but we should progress. Fletcher and McCoist not quite as polished as Mark Chapman.

The 3rd round draw still holds its magic as does the weekend (week?) of the matches. FA and bigger clubs have tried to balls it up but I still love it.

I hope Tonda can change how open we are when we don't have the ball. So many crosses, many that could be stopped I think, and we're not good enough to defend them. Invited pressure and couldn't cope. Total agreement about Aribo. No way he's first sub (or any sub unless he ups his level). Tough one for OR to come on for. And on the ball we just didn't have enough sustained possession in their half. I think we would have won if we did because we did look dangerous at times.

From what I saw we deserved to lose. No control of that game. Fortunate not to concede the winner before it happened, with a couple of good off the line clearances. I think that's an own goal not that it matters. Millwall are having a good season and we weren't good enough to match them. Frustrating.

Saints won. Downs touched the ball. Alex McCarthy got man of the match (according to Sky cameras).

This may have been asked and answered but when did we last/ever score 5 in a half away from home?

If anyone cannot go please let me know.

Very, very good. Really liked the width including the CBs meaning we didn't become slow at the back. Wing backs could pretty much play as wingers due to our dominance but even so they were high up from the start which was good to see. I loved the passing into space that found a teammate having lost his man. Some really skillful, intuitive football that took the ball up the pitch in seconds. Pace was great on the ball. The only thing I didn't like was the continuation of the NJ chant leaving the ground when coming into contact with home fans who had just been hammered. The '....shit football team' line seemed a little much. But I'm old and I guess the young ones were carried away with the win.

That was an interesting game to be in with the home fans. Crikey those 8 minutes and 4 goals. Didn't know what to do but somehow kept calm. Fair play to the home lot around me, was next to the Saints fans so a pretty quiet part of the ground but they took it well enough.

Yes, nostalgia alert! I'm sure I kept mine. Bought it at a signing at, I think, Oxford St HMV where there were a fair few Saints and others fans even though in London. Well excited to meet him that day.

He's struggling to settle, it seems. Certainly in terms of playing regularly. It was a real shame that his first longish run of games came in that awful season, which because it was a PL season immediately increased his value and got clubs interested. At a time when we were open to cashing in. Finding his feet this year with us would have been much better for everyone.

I've definitely thought neurodiversity when I've seen TD in the past. No idea if that's the case. And yes, to an extent it's nobody's business. But I think it's ok to think about this, especially if the thoughts are about how it might affect someone, and what support might help. I haven't seen anyone just saying it for saying's sake.