Marsdinho

Firstly - Ive NEVER been in a fight, im too much of a weed for that sort of shananigans. but.... 1) "Police say a gang kicked and punched the victims to the ground, where they were then repeatedly kicked and stamped on." Did they just stand by and watch. If they were there to see it unfold, why didnt they step in? 2) Ill help do the Police's job for them.....if they come and help me do my job tomorow morning.

Take, for example, Eusebius who served as an ecclesiastical church historian and bishop. He had great influence in the early Church and he openly advocated the use of fraud and deception in furthering the interests of the Church [Remsberg]. The first mention of Jesus by Josephus came from Eusebius (none of the earlier church fathers mention Josephus' Jesus). It comes to no surprise why many scholars think that Eusebius interpolated his writings. In his Ecclesiastical History, he writes, "We shall introduce into this history in general only those events which may be useful first to ourselves and afterwards to posterity." (Vol. 8, chapter 2). In his Praeparatio Evangelica, he includes a chapter titled, "How it may be Lawful and Fitting to use Falsehood as a Medicine, and for the Benefit of those who Want to be Deceived" (book 12, chapter 32).

RPB - Can I refer you to one of my earleir posts vis-a-vis Josephus. PS: Im serioulsy considering signing up as a full member, just so that I can continue this very interesting discussion. MODS - Please dont lock this thread, its a very healthy debate. If yo have to do anything with this thread, please move it to the Lounge. cheers

Jesus is a mythical figure in the tradition of pagan mythology and almost nothing in all of ancient literature would lead one to believe otherwise. Anyone wanting to believe Jesus lived and walked as a real live human being must do so despite the evidence, not because of it.

Well, I certainly havent found "lots" of sources.....but I did find this rather interesting. Josephus Flavius, the Jewish historian, lived as the earliest non-Christian who mentions a Jesus. Although many scholars think that Josephus' short accounts of Jesus (in Antiquities) came from interpolations perpetrated by a later Church father (most likely, Eusebius), Josephus' birth in 37 C.E., well after the alleged crucifixion of Jesus, puts him out of range of an eyewitness account. Moreover, he wrote Antiquities in 93 C.E., after the first gospels were written! Therefore, even if his accounts about Jesus came from his hand, his information could only serve as hearsay. Talmud: Amazingly some Christians use brief portions of the Talmud, (a collection of Jewish civil a religious law, including commentaries on the Torah), as evidence for Jesus. They claim that Yeshu (a common name in Jewish literature) in the Talmud refers to Jesus. However, this Jesus, according to Gerald Massey actually depicts a disciple of Jehoshua Ben-Perachia at least a century before the alleged Christian Jesus. [Massey] Regardless of how one interprets this, the Palestinian Talmud got written between the 3rd and 5th century C.E., and the Babylonian Talmud between the 3rd and 6th century C.E., at least two centuries after the alleged crucifixion! At best it can only serve as a controversial Christian and pagan legend; it cannot possibly serve as evidence for a historical Jesus I won't go on... if case you think I'm out of order, but do a little research yourself before posting "facts". I will, however, leave you with these quotes..... What one believes and what one can demonstrate historically are usually two different things. -Robert J. Miller, Bible scholar, (Bible Review, December 1993, Vol. IX, Number 6, p. 9) It was not until the third century that Jesus' cross of execution became a common symbol of the Christian faith. -John Romer, archeologist & Bible scholar (Testament)

You cant say something as unsubstantiated as that and not provide proof / a source.....

most woman have two boobs....HTH

What do you call a Spanish pervert...... Senor Boobs.

Was having a beer in the "Le Tissier's Feet" pre the Wolves FA Cup game in 2003. Unfortuntely, their yoof also made an appearance and everyone cleared the pub...

Get yourself in one of the polish shops ans ask for some Carp and ground cheese bites..... You'll never be the same again.

Yep - Didnt read it properly :confused:

No, its a North / South split all the way to the final.

I might be able to help. Ive emailed saint_stevo asking him to send you (saint keith) a PM with details. Im only a registered user, so cant PM any more.

What do you call a Spanish pervert...??? Senor Boobs

get a grip.....Of course its still funny. So what, they loose their jobs....its hardly like they are dying is it. The caterers will get other catering jobs, the sales staff will get other sales jobs the security staff will get other security jobs etc Stop over reacting.

Taylor wants to become an umpire.

National Association for Disabled Supporters or NADS, for short...

Im limited to 3 posts a day....so ill make the most of the 1 I have left. The one out of "Reverend And The Makers" The one out of "The Zutons" Taylor Swift - I would like to go on record as stating that her music is awful. Little Boots Im sure there are many many more that I would chuck one up.

Good luck with that one !!!!

There were 6 in my class at school !!!! I was born in 76 though, before Le Tissier was invented...

No - it would ruin the fun.

I found it to be quite moorish...

No sh1t sherlock...

If by that you mean 34, then yeah...

I dont have a dog, but one day I will. Ive narowed my choices down to two, Gandhi or Raul....