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RPB - Can I refer you to one of my earleir posts vis-a-vis Josephus. PS: Im serioulsy considering signing up as a full member, just so that I can continue this very interesting discussion. MODS - Please dont lock this thread, its a very healthy debate. If yo have to do anything with this thread, please move it to the Lounge. cheers

Jesus is a mythical figure in the tradition of pagan mythology and almost nothing in all of ancient literature would lead one to believe otherwise. Anyone wanting to believe Jesus lived and walked as a real live human being must do so despite the evidence, not because of it.

Well, I certainly havent found "lots" of sources.....but I did find this rather interesting. Josephus Flavius, the Jewish historian, lived as the earliest non-Christian who mentions a Jesus. Although many scholars think that Josephus' short accounts of Jesus (in Antiquities) came from interpolations perpetrated by a later Church father (most likely, Eusebius), Josephus' birth in 37 C.E., well after the alleged crucifixion of Jesus, puts him out of range of an eyewitness account. Moreover, he wrote Antiquities in 93 C.E., after the first gospels were written! Therefore, even if his accounts about Jesus came from his hand, his information could only serve as hearsay. Talmud: Amazingly some Christians use brief portions of the Talmud, (a collection of Jewish civil a religious law, including commentaries on the Torah), as evidence for Jesus. They claim that Yeshu (a common name in Jewish literature) in the Talmud refers to Jesus. However, this Jesus, according to Gerald Massey actually depicts a disciple of Jehoshua Ben-Perachia at least a century before the alleged Christian Jesus. [Massey] Regardless of how one interprets this, the Palestinian Talmud got written between the 3rd and 5th century C.E., and the Babylonian Talmud between the 3rd and 6th century C.E., at least two centuries after the alleged crucifixion! At best it can only serve as a controversial Christian and pagan legend; it cannot possibly serve as evidence for a historical Jesus I won't go on... if case you think I'm out of order, but do a little research yourself before posting "facts". I will, however, leave you with these quotes..... What one believes and what one can demonstrate historically are usually two different things. -Robert J. Miller, Bible scholar, (Bible Review, December 1993, Vol. IX, Number 6, p. 9) It was not until the third century that Jesus' cross of execution became a common symbol of the Christian faith. -John Romer, archeologist & Bible scholar (Testament)

You cant say something as unsubstantiated as that and not provide proof / a source.....

most woman have two boobs....HTH

What do you call a Spanish pervert...... Senor Boobs.

Was having a beer in the "Le Tissier's Feet" pre the Wolves FA Cup game in 2003. Unfortuntely, their yoof also made an appearance and everyone cleared the pub...

Get yourself in one of the polish shops ans ask for some Carp and ground cheese bites..... You'll never be the same again.

Yep - Didnt read it properly :confused:

No, its a North / South split all the way to the final.

I might be able to help. Ive emailed saint_stevo asking him to send you (saint keith) a PM with details. Im only a registered user, so cant PM any more.

What do you call a Spanish pervert...??? Senor Boobs

get a grip.....Of course its still funny. So what, they loose their jobs....its hardly like they are dying is it. The caterers will get other catering jobs, the sales staff will get other sales jobs the security staff will get other security jobs etc Stop over reacting.

Taylor wants to become an umpire.

National Association for Disabled Supporters or NADS, for short...

Im limited to 3 posts a day....so ill make the most of the 1 I have left. The one out of "Reverend And The Makers" The one out of "The Zutons" Taylor Swift - I would like to go on record as stating that her music is awful. Little Boots Im sure there are many many more that I would chuck one up.

Good luck with that one !!!!

There were 6 in my class at school !!!! I was born in 76 though, before Le Tissier was invented...

No - it would ruin the fun.

I found it to be quite moorish...

No sh1t sherlock...

If by that you mean 34, then yeah...

I dont have a dog, but one day I will. Ive narowed my choices down to two, Gandhi or Raul....

The other unanswered questions are here..... http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:cQ3gjqNsHU8J:whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/911q.html%3Fq%3D911q.html+9+11+questions&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk

31. How did the hijackers change the flight plan without law enforcement or the military try to stop them? 32. Which hijacker's passport was found in the WTC rubble? Who found it and what time? 33. How could the FBI distinguish between "regular" Muslims and hijacker Muslims on those flights? 34. Why was there not one "innocent" Muslim on board any of these flights? 35. Did someone go through the passenger lists looking for Muslim names and label them as hijackers? MOHAMMED ATTA 36. Did the Florida police provide information that Atta was searched because of 1)an expired Visa, 2) driving a car without a license, 3) because of an incident at Miami Airport? 37. Why did Atta leave his bag at the airport and the employees didn't put it on board? 38. Who found his bag? How can we be sure it it was his bag? 39. Why did Atta place a video "how to fly planes", a uniform and his last will into his bag, knowing that he would commit suicide? 40. Why did Atta leave his drivers license in a rental car? 41. When did Atta train on a flight simulator? 42. Did Atta leave the US while in training and then return? 43. Why did Atta decide to study at Opa Locka, a famous hub of 6 Navy training bases and includes government partners like U.S. Coast Guard Air Station, Police (Miami-Dade) Aviation Unit? 44. Why was Atta allowed to study since he was stopped by the police for driving without a license and also for violating his visa? THE BLACK BOXES AND CRASH VIDEO 45. Why were the Black Boxes never recovered ? 46. Why didn't the FBI release the air traffic controller's protocols? 47. Why did the FBI not release the Flight Data Recorder info? 48. Who video-recorded the first plane hitting the tower? Why did he disappear from the media? THE HIJACKERS 49. How did the FBI receive a tip from a passenger who boarded a different plane and reached his destination safely that he had a confrontation with two ME men at the Logan airport in Boston? 50. Who tipped the FBI to storm the Westin Hotel in Boston on September 12th? 51. Where did the photos of all 19 hijackers come from? 52. How were all hijackers identified just 2 days after the attack? 53. Why did all 19 names not appear on the passenger list 2 days after the hijacker list was released? 54. Why do none of the names appear on the passenger lists UA and AA gave to CNN? 55. How could the hijackers disable the defense systems? 56. Why did the FBI ignore Bin Laden's family, who left the United States without further investigation 57. What about the supposed hijackers who are still alive? 58. Was there a reason to change the list of the original 19 hijackers? 59. What happened to Ayub Ali Khan and Mohammed Jaweed Azmath, who have been in jail since September 2001, because of possession of box cutters on a train?Who gave the tip to arrest them? 60. Why did it take 4 months before Ramsi Binalschibhs name was mentioned, since he was a good friend of Mohammad Atta and lived in his apartment in Hamburg?