Farmer Saint

Moles that is - utterly destroyed it this year, and then the drought and a hosepipe ban. Horrendous.

It was invested in as a passive income - I'm 41 - and would give me some fun. There is also a lot of land on the edge of surrounding towns, and with the likelihood of relaxation of planning laws (as I saw it back then), it seemed like a decent investment. It's doing me well so far alongside a couple of Non-Exec roles. I also have this as the view from my bedroom window...

He's got to go.

I don't think that's the choice, is it? 😜

That is superb.

TBF, do you really want to be in the Prem?

Yeah, hilarious 🫤

It's why we've switched out Archer for Downs, clearly.

Can you send me the link to that article please? I await your answers to my questions.

That's been a sentiment since Brexit TBF, there is nothing new there. For me, and I said this previously, you need to tell me the profile of these people. Software business owner - what does this mean, what approx EBITDA they working at etc? What's his age? What's his family situation? Most wealthy people are not looking over the next 3 years, they're looking over the next 10 to 20. To lose huge amounts in tax on your company sale (which is the biggest thing he'll ever sell, so his biggest tax burden) on a 3 year bet that Labour will get in again is a very, very risky thing to do. Unless we're saying that the UK is permanently broken, irrelevant of who is in power, which I don't disagree with. It's why I purchased a farm, I bet on the price of food commodities going up 5 years ago.

Yeah, better him than me TBH!

It does feel very right wing SOG doesn't it?

I can't find any on Google, so need you to tell us. Who?

You are again misunderstanding, I've picked up your actual comments that you seem to have deleted from the Weston reply. Asset rich, no wage millionaires are actually fairly immobile due to the fact that they get taxed on their assets if they sell them. So business owners, share owners, big stake millionaires have to suck up huge tax bills to move abroad. Some high wage earners leave the UK and will always leave to places like Dubai, because they don't want to pay any tax. That's fine, but that has nothing to do with UK tax changes by the Labour party - income tax hasn't changed apart from the freezing of thresholds since 2012. That makes very little tax difference to high wage earners. Selfish people will always, and have always moved to low tax economies. What's your friend going to do in the US by the way, for work? When did he sell his company? What did his company do? What age bracket are they in? Let's see if you answer the question this time... https://taxjustice.net/press/millionaire-exodus-did-not-occur-study-reveals/

Where did I say it didn't matter? It matters, just not as much as people are told to think it does. It wouldn't be anywhere near the issue it is now if we hadn't left the EU. Personally, I think it's the Prophet Muhammed having a good laugh and dishing out a punishment to all those who voted to leave.

Why is it any more than an annoyance? I live in an area with a huge number of immigrants and immigrant hotels. It's not changed fuck all. It's been the same since we left the EU, why is now the "breaking point"?

Immigrants being put up at taxpayers expense. Unprecedented levels of change - behave.

We're talking about underprivileged people here, people on the breadline as they seem to be the most vocal about these issues. For us, it's annoying, for those others it's a fucking slap in the face.

Moving to the US. The day after we announced a huge tech deal with the US, and having to pay Capital Gains on the sale of their business? So what is their reason for moving? You really do seem to have a network of the thickest millionaires...

No, I think it should be done. I'm just telling you it won't because no government will take it on. They never have and they never will.

The fact people see it as such a big thing is disappointing, but that's what happens when they are bombarded from every angle that this is what is making their life shit. It's not.

I love the efficiency savings argument. To identify and come up with those process improvements will cost £20bn+ plus and take 5+ years, before any IT costs. It's why no government has done it as the payback isn't anywhere close to being in term. Take it from someone who semi-retired at 39 due to selling a company that did exactly that...