Farmer Saint

Rayner, Burnham or Milliband I would go with - outside bet of Lisa Nandy as well.

That makes sense - this destroys Reform and their voter base, and places their voter base back with the Tories. Clever play all round as screws the left or Labour as well.

Reeves has no chance. No-one wants her in charge.

Exactly, we need pragmatism and an acceptance that centrist policies are the only ones that will realistically work (and be accepted). If they want to jump ship then let them - do we have any idea how many sit under that banner?

No, and I don't think it should be, but it is clearly something that he suffers with and it impacts him. I don't think what you said is controversial at all.

I didn't see that, as I said exactly the same thing and wasn't roasted by any means.

What about the other article? It's a poll of 511 millionaires, so is as fact as your article.

But the earlier story you posted was from the Telegraph, so is that also valueless then? I also suggest you read the other article.

You're turning into East End Nic more and more every day... "The poll was conducted by Survation. It surveyed 511 millionaires living in the UK via online interview. The sample size reflects the small section of society that has been targeted. Nationally representative surveys of 2,000 respondents in size are used to gauge the attitudes of the full UK adult population, therefore 511 people is a sufficient sample for the size of this audience."

Professor Trevor Williams, chairman and co-founder at FXGuard and former chief economist at Lloyds Bank commercial banking, highlighted that the UK’s economy has performed poorly over the past decade and said it is the only nation in world’s 10 wealthiest countries (W10) that has seen negative millionaire growth. He said: “Since 2014, the number of resident millionaires in the UK dropped by 9% compared with the W10’s global average growth of +40%. Over the same period, the US saw a 78% increase in millionaires – the fastest wealth growth among the W10.” Beyond higher taxes, Williams adds that Brexit has made the UK less attractive for wealthy individuals. He said: “The UK’s attractiveness to the wealthy has also been eroded by the loss of some Euroclear activities since Brexit, leading to a shift elsewhere of market participants and capital. “Furthermore, the UK has not rolled back financial regulation, which was anticipated by many when it left the EU’s single market and customs union. Instead, in a move widely criticised, the government shut down the UK Tier 1 Immigrant Investor Program in 2022, thereby eliminating an entry point for millionaires. This is in strong contrast to many other countries that have been acting to attract wealthy individuals.”

Some interesting articles on millionaires leaving the UK: https://theconversation.com/millionaires-may-not-be-fleeing-the-uk-in-droves-but-there-are-reasons-these-stories-persist-259591 https://patrioticmillionaires.uk/latest-news/uk-millionaire-poll-2025

He also doesn't answer any questions, just posts articles without reading them and then thinks they back up his opinions, which most of the time they don't.

But what does leaving the ECHR enable us to do?

What I find so funny about all these stories is that they are stories of people, 18 months into a Labour Government, planning to leave. Personally, I'd like to see stories of people who HAVE left - wealth creators who have left and moved their businesses, rather than bankers and CEOs who just want to work and pay no income tax.

1 person that owns a third of the company, with 2 others. The company has over 1000 employees and is a tech company HQ'd in London. The company is not moving and I don't think he will either. He just wants tax breaks, otherwise he wouldn't be moving to that Godforsaken hellhole that is Dubai.

Man who wants to emigrate at some point in the future (probably when Labour are not in power), wants to emigrate. Is he talking about next 3 and a half years, or after that? If next 3 and a half years he was emigrating anyway, so we should definitely tax him. Interesting that his business won't be moving though, so his assets will still be here and taxed. If he is that worried btw, it's already too late, the budget is next week and there is no way he'd be able to get his money and assets out of the country that quickly and easily. Again, any financial advisor worth his salt will be telling people to stay put and just see out the Labour Government if they don't want to pay those taxes, especially those that only want to emigrate "one day".

No, it's just pay a little bit more...

That for sure is an increase, but it feels like it's expected now, how ever much it shouldn't be. We shouldn't hide behind this as a stealth tax, we should grow some balls and increase taxes if that's what is needed (wanted), rather than drag the lower paid into more tax.

https://observer.co.uk/news/business/article/the-uk-has-a-productivity-problem-cuts-wont-fix-it Also, show us anyone on here who has said that the benefits system does not need a complete re-think.

It's also the fact that the socialism ideology is for a high, progressive, tax society. It'd be more that the right of his party wouldn't want him to raise taxes, wouldn't it?

Although I think taxes do need to rise, it's also good news that this doesn't need to be done due to improved economic forecasts, so I guess an all round "well done" is probably due from all our posters.

He does have a problem, as I continuously said in the Summer that we should sell him. He has some proper issues/demons that he needs to sort - him and Chelsea was a huge red flag and it was why many PL teams weren't actually interested.

I think he's ignoring me now after losing his debate with me the other day - it's a shame because he never responded to: - The article by the associate director of the IFS. - The fact that even though taxes are the most important factor to millionaires, instead of moving to other low tax parts of the US a lot of millionaires are jumping ship to the high tax havens of Europe. - That the Government have started to make cuts, first ones to do with the PCCs. Shame he didn't mention that in his exhaustive list of cuts 😂

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