Farmer Saint

I have no narrative, so please do. I will await your answer. Moving to Dubai is good for some people, but not the profile of people that you are talking about (that's why I have been challenging), but it will be interesting to see what they say.

Please can you ask, as very interested. When you say future investments and Labour policy, which Labour policies are pushing them abroad?

Question for both @Sir Ralph and @east-stand-nic, as Sir Ralph said he couldn't answer this the other day (even though they are his millionaire acquaintance's) What would be the tax advantage for someone who's assets and businesses are UK based, to move to Dubai? On what taxes are they saving money? I just want to see if either of you have an understanding of how it all works.

Will listen to this later, but have met Jeremy quite a few times. I'm going to hate myself a little bit for this, but he is actually a very affable, generous and dare I say it, good person.

"Not my words Carol, the words of Top Gear magazine".

Ok. What's your point? If you were comparing them to Just Stop Oil protestors I'd agree... It's like comparing ABH with Speeding, they're completely different misdemeanours.

Slightly irrelevant - she's inciting violence, civil disobedience, vandalism and potentially death to a number of people. In any society that has to be punished.

I wouldn't say putting someone in prison who was inciting people to burn down a hotel as ludicrous.

That's some mental gymnastics to be able to compare the two of them, congrats.

That's irrelevant - Edwards not trying to make an effort to get the ball is a red card. It doesn't matter where Stephens was.

Yeah, the writing styles, poor spelling and grammar, inability to answer questions, crying after getting insulted and then throwing around insults. It all makes sense. I also think both are joke characters - I don't think either can actually be serious.

By the way, was very interested in what was said by Still about Stephens and the fact that he is clearly such a good guy to be around and massively respected in the dressing room. It does explain why all our Managers for the last few years have continued to have him in and around the first team squad. Also interesting to hear that he is aware of the criticism that he has got in the past. From a purely human level, it really must take some fortitude to overcome that.

Cam Archer plays off the last man. In a situation like yesterday when we were camped in their half, he's literally there for knock-downs and rebounds. That's why he didn't touch the ball much. Downs just wasn't found with any crosses.

I think if we ignore him he might just go away...I'm surprised he's still here in all honesty as he's thoroughly embarrassed himself. If I were him I'd take the loss and go back to enjoying his "holiday".

How sad.

Yep, he's proper box to box. I can see why multiple outlets have him as favourite for Championship player of the season.

That's the third time you've changed your reply. Want to try again?

Sorry, who did I call a "c bomb"? The problem you have is you've come on here playing the big "I am", telling everyone they know nothing about economics, whilst also displaying a horrendous grasp of economics and tax law. You've also admitted to lying about the examples you're coming up with about people moving to Dubai (I'm still waiting on how they are saving tax when all their assets and businesses are in the UK, which was the reason you said they were moving). Whelk has a very cultured way with words when he wants to. He is not stupid, and he is not a chav. However, he does not tolerate a fool. Unfortunately you have ventured into that territory.

Imagine the commercial revenue potential from shirt lettering - and SR said we need to increase revenue! Fucking seaside B&B.

Sigh - I don't think this is going anywhere.

And we still should have scored 4 or 5 and had 2 penalties.

Are those scores out of 10? If so you're in for a fucking disappointing season mate.

That was a proper hit. No keeper is saving that.

I don't think we were anywhere as near as bad as a lot of people are making us out to be. After about half an hour we absolutely dominated. Yes, we were poor defensively, but we have been poor defensively since Puel left. I've been watching Soccer Saturday and flicking between the Championship games on Sky, and fuck me this league is utter horseshit. Wrexham will be a top 8 team this year, and we had nearly 30 shots on goal. We need to sort the defence (although that will come with time and coaching) and we need some more creativity. But apart from that, I think we've got more than enough, and I think it'll be good when we're a bit more settled with the squad come September - uncertainty is good for no-one. I was watching with a Villa supporting mate, and he thought apart from Armstrong we were strong in general.

And far less sexy...