Farmer Saint

Came across this from a few years ago... interesting comments considering it is pre-Hamas atrocities. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/06/israel-imposing-apartheid-on-palestinians-says-former-mossad-chief

Guillotine or knife?

That's a Friday night for some people.

He does. The way Hamas killed those people was fucking barbaric.

Guillotine versus someone literally sawing off your head with a semi sharp blade. Are you fucking kidding?

The problem is, and this is down to the way it's been dealt with, I would expect most Palestinians would now want Hamas in charge considering the utter demolition of their strip. Previously it was a case of unfair elections and corruption that kept them in charge. Whatever happens, whether it's called Hamas or Hezbollah, or whatever rises from the ashes, the Palestinian's will (perhaps rightly now) want the destruction of Israel. I think that's why Israel have acted like they have, as this gives them carte blanche to take control of the area because of the future threat they will now have to endure.

Look, please let's not go down fucking straw man's on how we'd like to be killed. It's not making the point you want it to, I promise you. Love from someone who thinks the Israeli forces are utter cunts (as are Hamas).

Yeah, which is what I've always said - I think RM did the job he should have - 4th place. Many have said we should have got automatic, and I disagree. RM clearly had Farke's number, I agree, and he should be commended for that. He did a good job to get us that 3rd promotion spot against a superior team.

See, that's where I wholeheartedly disagree. A Armstrong ahead of James, yes, Downes ahead of Kamara, KWP ahead of Byram on the left, and then that's it. Maybe Bednarek or THB ahead of Rodon, but also maybe not. Who would you have Stu and Manning ahead of, or would you take KWP over Gray?

Everyone's apart from Leeds and Leicester's. Ipswich had momentum and a far superior Manager, but a worse team.

Eh? Not sure what you're getting at here. I was just asking you to explain your opinion on why you think our team was better than (or at least as good as) Leeds and Leicester's?

Clearly this is all in my opinion. Sorry, didn't realise I had to explain that to you (although I probably should have guessed).

Not sure who I'd have in the Saints team ahead of these TBF:

You said lecture everyone...as I said above, I don't have superior knowledge to everyone, but I do to those who think we had a better team than Leeds and Leicester.

Ok, but it kinda does. If we're saying our team would only provide 3, maybe 4 players to the first team of Leeds and Leicester I would say that Leeds and Leicester had better teams, would you not?

Yep, didn't think so. I don't think I have superior football knowledge by any means, however I think I do have superior knowledge to those who think our team was better than Leeds or Leicester's last year. But I think most people on here would say that given that choice. For instance, if someone said they thought Russell Martin was a better Manager than, say, Enzo Maresca, would you think you had a better football knowledge than them?

I think there is quite a difference between saying that you thought our squad was better than Leicester and Leeds, than on a par - that's the point. My criticism of you was based on you thinking the team was better than those - because that's what you said. I would have been far more lenient if you said you thought they were on a par (although I would have still disagreed). So you're saying the teams were on a par - I would suggest not, and would be interested to know which players of ours would have got into their first teams?

What may be worthwhile is explaining why you disagree with the fact that I think last year's Leicester and Leeds team were better than last year's Saints team...be interesting to see @tdmickey3 try it as well, but he never backs himself so I doubt he'll do it this time either.

"Compared well" means above the standard item though?? I think you're making the same mistake... "Compared well" suggests something is found to be satisfactory or good when measured against a standard or other item, or when compared to a similar thing. It implies a positive outcome or result from the comparison.

Yep, so clearly in that case we had a worse team.

You said it "measured up favourably", which in my book means better - otherwise you'd just say "measured up" to. "Measured up" means to be as good as something else or as good as expected, according to Cambridge Dictionary. "Favourably" means in a way that is favorable, or provides an advantage or more chance of success, according to Cambridge Dictionary. Which players from the Saints squad would you have put in the Leeds and Leicester teams then?

My God, how ever will they survive? https://www.ft.com/content/119b79e9-5446-4a31-a8d7-ab10b57cbc67?fbclid=IwQ0xDSwKcDtZjbGNrApwOymV4dG4DYWVtAjExAAEeLFr67DZQeZrGdn3_wiebhAUZwWkL4ejR1x2BO7-9ig96MLrnyVuqHX5AcLg_aem_--BAJ0yRUhlO8B_rpW6zbQ

So you thought our squad was better than Leicester's and Leeds last season? Frankly, I think that's mental, and if people think that no wonder they weren't happy with Martin last season. But I also severely question your football knowledge.

There is a massive difference. Yes, the end result is the same, but the intent is very different. This is a silly line of defence.

Quality of the squad was poor - that's been shown by how shit the same squad has been in the PL this season under various managers, systems and tactics. We were miles behind Leicester and Leeds in relation to quality of squad for instance, and we didn't have the momentum and manager that Ipswich had, so not sure any more than 4th was likely.