Verbal Kint

The Lallana bid was originally rejected as well, didn't stop us accepting it later when the rat said he'd go on strike. It's not like when we left Puncheon to train with the kids, he was only earning a few grand a week probably. We're in the big boys league now and we can't allow Lovren to rot whilst we have to pay him his 30/40k a week wage. We simply can't afford to do that. Both Lallana and Lovren have completely ****ed us over

We won't get a king's ransom, Lovren's behaviour has significantly weakened our position and Liverpool know it. They won't make a new bid, they will leave us to sweat with a player who has pretty much made his position here untenable. He'll leave at some point for the original bid and there is very little the board can realistically do about it. Thanks Dejan

Surely that isn't legal? And he was training last week wasn't he?

Sorry was being sarcastic. My point is when a club holds onto a player who wants out (Suarez, Benteke, Baines) they nearly always sign a new contract fairly quickly, always on massive money and normally with release clauses. That's why they were persuaded to stay in the first place, because the club had assured them they would pay them what they would be able to get elsewhere (or near enough the same amount). We aren't in a position where we can hand out massive contracts to 4 or 5 players. That's why they're all leaving

Who, a few months after the window closed, signed a new contract on 75k a week. Maybe we should have done that for Lallana, Shaw, Lovren and Morgan. Just give them all 80k a week contracts. It's all so easy

65% possession and only 2 or 3 shots on target all game is not 'the future'

Exactly. If Morgan and Lovren go, that's 5 first team players to have gone. What happens if come the last week of the window we get good offers for Cork and Fonte, with only 1 year left on their contracts? It would probably make sense to sell them and that would then be 7 gone, and that would be madness. The line needs to be drawn somewhere. Sell lovren for big money and then tell the rest that that is it. Bring in 4 or 5 players with all this money, get Cork and Fonte on new deals and then maybe we will look ok

Losing 3 first team players for big money isn't ideal but is manageable. Losing 5 first team players in one window, regardless of monies received, is verging on incompetent. If Morgan goes it will be for 20 million at most which isn't big money for him IMO. At some point the board have to say "no more leave" and after Lovren (25 million) that needs to be it. The recent track record of big squad changes in one transfer window makes pretty grim reading and we need to prevent that. Keep Morgan for 1 more year at least

We can't compete with Spurs on wages. We just can't afford to pay players the 80-100k a week that they can

As his confidence grows and playing under a more attacking manager he will start taking on his man more on the outside, getting to the byline and being able to put dangerous balls in with his left as he should. Like you said too many times he got into good positions and then stopped and went backwards, mainly because it seemed to me he was under instructions from MP not to get too far forward in case we lost possession and he was suddenly caught out of position. He will iron out his faults over the next few years and go on to be a world class player, probably outgrowing Man Utd and ending up at one of the big 3 (Barcelona, Real, Bayern). Targett's biggest problem will be inevitable comparisons to Luke, which isn't really fair or realistic. I hope he is given his chance though. It sends out a great message to replace a 30 million pound left back with another from the academy if the coaches think he's good enough. It's what separates this club from the others around us in the league. Really excited about Reed this year as well

RK places more of an emphasis on scoring goals, not on keeping possession. That might help him. It will aslo help having a more mobile front man who is capable of running in behind. Whenever Gaston gets the ball he's looking for a killer pass and with Lambert up front he simply wasn't going to get the runner he needed for that

To massage his ego. The ad was predominantly a picture of himself. Not with his teammates or with the fans, or even from his youth team days with Bale etc. Just a big picture of himself. He doesn't care about how he's perceived, he cares about the ££££

Which won't really happen. They left for the money, that won't really be affected if they fail. MP could get sacked, but he's on a 5 year contract worth 15 million quid. He wouldn't have gone to Spurs if he cared about the champions league as they have very little chance of qualifying for it and we all know how he feels about the Europa league and the domestic cups. He went for the money and he's laughing all the way to the bank. Same with Lallana, knowing full well he gets the odd game against fc Copenhagen or similar this year (how exciting) and the chances are next year he's back to scrapping for the top 6. But he's on 100k a week now so who cares? Happy days for him

Think MP is a very talented coach but I'm not sure Spurs is the right fit. Not sure he has the right midfielders there to implement the press and doesn't appear as though there are big funds to play with after last year's spending spree. It wouldn't surprise me if he flopped there but bounced back strongly somewhere else. Even if he does do well there, what's the best he can do with that squad? 5th? No real improvement on last season. Lallana will do ok but doubt he'll live up to the price tag and he certainly won't get a team built around him like he had here. Shaw will take a couple of seasons developing but will no doubt go on to be one of the best left backs in the world, but the fee reflects that. Lovren is a very good defender but is he really worth 25 million? I think we can replace him for half of that. Liverpool's transfer policy strikes me as being fairly lazy. I can understand wanting proven premier league players but they're having to pay huge prices for them when they could get better value elsewhere. My opinion on them as players hasn't changed at all but that doesn't mean they will be successful elsewhere, plenty of examples over the years of players not fitting in at new clubs for a variety of reasons. As people, Lambert and Shaw have behaved immaculately IMO and go with my best wishes. MP and Lovren I find it hard to be bothered by in all honesty. Both only been here a year or so and MP in particular seemed to have very little affinity to the club. I'm really not bothered by them leaving. Lallana? An absolute disgrace. Spouting all those lies when signed that contract and his constant badge thumping last season only to turn around and go on strike when the ££££ came calling. I have no issue with players wanting to earn more money but don't give it the big "mr southampton" when you're going to jump ship as soon as a bigger club come sniffing. He's a complete ****, and his 14 years of 'service' (3 good seasons in all honesty with the club standing by him during serious illness and yet apparently he's the loyal one and not the club?) have been totally undone by his threats to go on strike IMO. The daily echo thing summed him up - me me me. Clattenburg was right. They all did very well for us but we've got inflated prices for all of them and if we spend the money really well we could end up with a better team. Unlikely, but possible

"Badge kissing judas, we know what you are"

Or, Lallana was suddenly in a position where he was being offered to double/treble his wages and decided to go on strike to get his fat new contract?

He's leaving now because one of the big boys, capable of paying him a 6 figure weekly salary, are now prepared to buy him. They haven't before. And i'm not slating them for for moving for better money by the way. Just pointing out that IS why they're leaving. But you fall for Lovren'e bull**** if you want. I'd have more respect if they just came out and said they're leaving to treble their money, but they won't because it's bad PR. So instead they give you the champions league/lack of ambition nonsense and gullible fans like you swallow it all up.

££££££. That's all they care about

If the fee is 34 million then fair enough, and i think on the whole he's behaved a lot better than one or two of the others. Personally think he is making a mistake though as quite frankly in a year or two we would be talking about Barcelona and Real Madrid being in for him, not just Man Utd. Good luck to him. Now for the hard part - spending the money well...

Yourself and the Manchester based journos, Mark Ogden etc, need to understand that Woodward is a bit of an amateur and doesn't have a clue what he's doing in regard to transfer dealings. Once you come to terms with that you might realise that it's a mistake right now to believe any United based leak, although frankly you should have sussed that out last summer.

All he's doing is repeating what the United based journalists have been saying. The deal between Shaw himself and United has clearly been agreed, but a fee has never been agreed between the clubs. Journalist have assumed that that would be a formality, hence it being a "done deal", but it now looks as though that isn't quite the case

3rd offence. He should be banned for life from all competitions. He should never step foot on a football pitch again. Disgusting man. But he won't be. Banned from the rest of the tournament and that will be it probably

Exactly what I was thinking. Club shouldn't sell before we have played that game

It's not the fact they want some of our players. That's perfectly understandable. It's the way they have gone about it that grates slightly. Either negotiate a fee in private or pay the asking price. unsettling them in the manner they have is a pretty poor way to behave and shouldn't be tolerated. It's perfectly obvious they're trying to get players to put pressure on the board to accept offers that are falling short of our valuations, and are doing it as publicly as possible, particularly with their "take it or leave it" off for Lallana which they leaked to the press. I don't recollect us going about our transfer dealings like this and if we have then I'd find it equally bad form

"Steve Gerrard Gerrard, He kisses the badge on his chest, Then hands in a transfer request Steve Gerrard Gerrard" Lallana will fit in perfectly