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Some thoughts. The commentator was ace. "Normal service resumes". "Brighton are being buried along the South Coast". Loved Nige's smug super-villain pose when our first penalty went in. That man needs a Persian cat and an underground dugout. Just goes to show what a dirty team Brighton are, and although they were hard done by on that specific incident, they can't really have too many complaints. Kudos to the players for maintaining discipline when the other team is that filthy. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if our players going down easily wasn't a deliberate tactic employed after half-time. And why not?

Homophobia is basically born of ignorance. Didn't really know anyone that was (openly) gay at school or college. I'd picked up a few opinions from alpha-male uncles during my childhood. Needless to say, those opinions weren't what the PC crowd (or even me now) would regard as enlightened. That all pretty much changed when I went to Uni, because there were gay people everywhere. So two choices really. Carry on with the ol' homophobia or grow up and deal with it. Second option worked for me (cue many hilarious posts asking how I "dealt with it"). Now, I can understand that people are uncomfortable when gay men openly discuss their sex lives in graphic detail, but then, I'd feel equally uncomfortable if a heterosexual couple gave a blow-by-blow account of what they got up to last night. Either way, it's highly private information that you wouldn't want to hear. It's a serious issue that creates a lot of misery and drives a lot of people to suicide. I've seen a post elsewhere about Saints fans only singing homophobic chants because Brighton and Hove Albion starting singing "You're too ugly to be gay". If that's the case, "I can see you holding hands" is a perfectly valid response. "HIV Positive" and "Faggot"? Well over the top, IMO.

Take off and nuke the whole site from orbit. Only way to be sure.

I know someone called 'F*ck Off You C*nts'. French.

To the tune of "Here we go" Racist Gus Racist Gus... (etc) Not brilliantly wordy, but that's a plus. Nothing to learn. More people might sing it.

The Tories can blame Labour for letting Eastern Europeans in as much as they like, but it shows that they're all mouth and no action. If they really gave a crap about the 1.2 million unemployed youngsters, they could suspend immigration from the new EU member states, citing that it is adversely affecting the British labour market. Or they could have voted for an EU referendum when they had the chance. They've bottled both options, proving once again that the interests of corporations sit over and above the interests of the average Briton.

Mate, I completely agree that you can get all of that out of a supermarket job. A lot of my work ethic comes from time served in less illustrious roles. As I said earlier, I didn't enjoy them that much but I absolutely got the point and the benefits of working. I really agree with the general sentiment, but I'm unsure as to the practicality. I suppose the one positive thing about big companies getting involved is that there is at least a chance that there will be a job at the end of it - a chance to get someone off the Government's books. That's an immediate roadblock to a more community based approach. The other thing is that some of the suggestions on here are already being handled by miscreants in orange jumpsuits. Not sure its entirely fair to dish out similar punishment to people just for being unemployed.

Sorry, but I do think these "work experience" programs are exploitative when used for no-mark jobs. How long does it actually take to learn how to put things onto shelves? The weird thing is, when I had that gig, I already knew how to put things on shelves. Weird that. Maybe that's why I got the job. Ok, ok - it isn't that simple. If you're stacking provisions you have to make sure that you put the stuff that's going out of date soonest nearer to the front. Still, that takes about a minute for a supervisor to explain it to you. I don't see how working in Tesco for nothing for eight weeks adds to their job prospects at all. Again, how does working in an easy job enhance their career prospects? The most important lesson in employment is learning how to graft, how to turn it on when you need to. Where's the graft in a nothing job that you don't really want to do? It's a no-win situation. If they do "real" jobs, then someone else is deprived of employment. If they do nothing jobs, all you're really doing is making them tape Jeremy Kyle. In principle, I don't mind the idea of long term unemployed doing work experience, but the implementation is completely crap. It would be much better if:- i) the Government gave the claimants benefit to the employer ii) the employer paid the proper wages to the work experience person A big part of the "attraction of work" are the rewards you get from it. Sure, some us get paid for doing the things we love ( I absolutely adore being a professional smartarse, for example ) but most people do not love doing crap jobs. I did crap jobs at that age too. Did I learn much from them? No. Did I enjoy them? Not especially. But I got paid for them, and I enjoyed the increase in lifestyle they were able to give me, after I'd paid my mum a bit of keep, of course. By all means let giant corporations with vast cash reserves give our listless youngsters an eight week trial. But they should be paid.

And largely because people like dune and yourself continue to perpetuate the stereotype you picked up from Bread and Harry Enfield That said, there is an element of truth in some of that. While things have got markedly better, the city, like most large cities, has a lot of problems to address. Generally though, it's delineated like any other place - crap areas and good areas. The problem is, when depicting the city, the media has always enjoyed giving the rest of the country something to chuckle about rather than giving a balanced depiction. It'd be like doing a reality show in a rough Southampton council estate and saying "hey kids, this is exactly what Southampton is like". Of course, the other factor is "Merseyside". If a serious crime is committed in Hampshire, no-one automatically thinks "ah, it must be Southampton". However, there's a natural association between Liverpool and Merseyside. People from outside end up equating the two, which is a trifle unfair. There are almost as many people in Merseyside as there are in Hampshire ( 1.5m v 1.7m ). Would you have been happy if the likes of the Paulsgrove riots reflected badly on Southampton? Probably not, but that happens to Liverpool all the time. And I can't really blame scousers for that. They've copped a lot of sh*t over the years. Docks defunct for decades after containerisation, virtually shut down in the 1980s during Thatcher's holy crusade against northerners, lied to about Hillsborough and still unfairly characterised by the rest of the country. They have every reason not to trust the Government. And as far as I'm concerned, the Government has owed the whole country a lot for a very long time. Now I'm not saying I've never seen a "pure scally". I'm not saying they don't exist. What I am saying is that they aren't representative of the wider whole, just as the little ratbags we've got running about in Southampton don't represent all of us.

You are quite right to point that out, but in terms of people claiming benefit, both in percentage terms and overspend (all fraud is lumped in with this), London is your actual winner.

Not really, mate. We already have enough evidence of your faux bigotry. Bloody good try, though.

I am sure that there are a number of kids who are getting dough from ma and pa. So in a sense, yep, you're right - not everyone has to do it. For those with less well-heeled folks, it pretty much becomes a necessity. So for some, they'll have to work for nothing. Big business is the beneficiary. Why can't the likes of TESCO offer paid work experience?

Article in the Guardian today. Full article Personally, I think it's disgusting. Slave labour. If these companies want people to stack shelves, then they should at least be paying minimum wage. They can afford it. Worse still, this potentially cuts off a lot of jobs for people who aren't necessarily the youth unemployed. From the 'employer's' perspective, why pay someone to do menial work when the Government is providing you with young workers for free? Shambles.

Do not drop it. A higher education degree is something that you benefit from your entire life.

My missus has the same problem in these games. She can't walk and look around at the same time. I often wonder how she manages in real life. Having said that, modern games are a bit of an ask. If you're not truly getting proper motion sickness, I'd just advise a bit of practice. Just amble about a room until it clicks. It's totally worth it - so many decent games are in this category now.

I know it's not like me to take a contrary position, but this is very much a derby. Last year saw to that. And before anyone goes on about that not being long enough, remember that their Palace 'derby' developed over a short space of time. I call bolox on anyone saying that they don't care about Brighton. We all want bragging rights over them in ways that we wouldn't for say, Leeds, a much bigger club. We especially want to see Gus 'Tactical Genius' Poyet, scourge of League One and accomplished acrobatics/acting coach, catch glimpses of his team played off the park ( when not gesticulating or holding his head in his hands ). We then want to see a graceless interview in which he blames external factors for his own incompetence. We would then like to read North Stand Chat, largely to witness countless numpties defending him after yet another defeat and more poor PR, utterly blind to his numerous failings. Of course, you could point out we Saints fans are blind to Nigel's failings too, but then, there's not much to go on

There's an admission of defeat if I ever saw one.

Bought this for the PS3 yesterday and spent a good few hours crawling about. Was going to get the PC version, but was a bit worried that ye olde machine wouldn't be able to handle it. So far, so awesome. Most of the tricks that Bethesda picked up doing Fallout 3 have been rolled into this, with the big exception of VATS. It is very streamlined and for the most part, looks excellent. Two gripes, really. First, the frame rate can get atrocious out in the open, especially if you're on horseback. Second is bugs. Not kidding - the game actually crashed at the point where you select your character. Save often, kids.

That looks amazing. How are you handling the controls? I thought Skyward Sword was massively integrated into Wii Motion Plus?

The best tip I ever got was from a former gf. Her dad worked on building sites, and his mantra was "if you're going anywhere, see if there is anything you can take with you". Consequently, whenever I leave the "man room" I scan it for things that need scooting to the kitchen. Very good tip for keeping on top of stuff.

No actually, I was referring to the trick that authoritarian states pull so often - saying that anyone that doesn't adhere to their ideological standards is an enemy of the state. The amusing aspect of your latest little tirade is that I happen to be aligned with your general views on Europe, but branding people traitors because they don't happen to agree with you is pure trolling, and you knew it, else you would not have started with "some may see this as an overreaction". I dunno where you're going for your audacity supplies, but get me some. It's okay for you to call people traitors, but not okay for others to call you out for your blatant trip-trap-ery? You stepped over the line. Move on.

How's about they're attracted by the prospect of seeing Saints beat decent opposition? If you were going to a boxing match, would you rather see the champ up against another decent fighter, or a resident of a local OAP home? I'm sure there are boxing purists out there saying "I was there when Tyson decked every old biddy in Portswood", but most people, given the choice, especially if that choice doesn't come around too often, would prefer to see a good contest.

Sometimes they run out of money. I don't know specifics about J6, but I do know that the M62 ends at junction 4. The plan was to take it all the way into Liverpool City Centre. Used to play on the building site of the M27 when it was being constructed

The black album is alright, but Jonnyboy is right. The other four are better. For me, the black album is the point at which they turned from credible musicians into what they became afterward, although I didn't realise it at the time. ...And Justice For All is my fave, then Master of Puppets, but its very very close between them - and both of them crap all over the radio friendly black album.

No, not overreacting. Trolling. Traitor? Get a grip. Or a swastika tattooed on your head. At least then people will see you coming when you tell them how to think.