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I'm sure Mr Fry will of course write a book about his time at SLH PLC and tell all. (FF - off you go!) If he doesn't, and you want to play detective (Trousers?) just check out how often he is allowed in the box at his beloved West Ham next year. Less than once a month then we know he probably didn't do so well, every home game then of course he is a hero

Just re-read this OP, Nick - you sure you got this right? If so So Fry wants to take 1mil of the bidders investment. Reducing what they have to spend on the club next season FRY OUT

OK on reflection. Fry has just told everybody how much one group have bid. Somehow that cannot be right when there are NDA's in place everywhere, did he actually have permission from whoever made that bid to announce it? Has he spoken to anyone apart from the group he met yesterday before doing this? Seems odd to suddenly start making these noises in the media. Hope he doesn't upset anyone.

Hmm Would be interesting to know the figure he had on the table last week

tee hee welcome back, save your other posts for later today - you may need them to have a moan again (let's face it Fry seems slower than some of the "legends" in the forum match last week) I reckon it's worse than the Rudi saga, more of a who shot JR saga, and we all know how disappointing that was in the end!

Weeeellllll..... In theory (IF things go wrong in the next few days) by the time the WC comes along maybe it would help our Academy boys cope with playing on other pitches in the Salisbury & District League 3 on a Saturday afternoon.

So, is Wednesdsay finally the new Friday? Fry said he'd announce by end of today. Will the bidder he didn't accept in order to keep talking to one other maintain the level of their bid or drop it if the competition hit the rocks? Did sands and goalposts shift or did the talks go well? Is there more than one way to pay off the creditors? For all this and more tune in again later today, tomorrow, Friday, ...... Oh God I hope not, Get it sorted today PLEASE!!!

lol Don't get me started, I'm relatively PC normally, but Armageddon with Bruce Willis always brings a cheer to me..... When Paris gets splatted And PLEASE Windows do bring it up, while they are at it they should apply for a booze licence as well so we can buy beer that isn;t 6 quid a pint

:cool: Just asked a question that's all. Difference between agreeing a formal written indicative bid and a formal contractual agreement and completion

I'll pass your thoughts on to the relevant authorities for you, I'm sure they'll appreciate that;) Dubya's 9/11 revenge, fly back here and sneeze..... you have ANY idea how upset the locals would be at getting infected by a pig? And no we have no idea why Carrefour & Geant don't have Pork sections when Spinneys, Choithrams, Park & Shop and Waitrose do. Oh and why is anyone confused about the French? Thought we all understood their place in society

yep will have to work out how to do it but a task for tomorrow I reckon

The worrying thing is they have been talking all day and nothing yet on SSN. Does that mean more talks tomorrow or what?

Important answers to follow on questions Pork is banned in Saudi, Kuwait and Sharjah here in the Emirates, but it is sold in most supermarkets (unless they are French) Some issues at the moment on import of new supplies in case they get infected by pig flu. As Micky may have spotted, I give an analogy - Mat Le Tiss was a brilliant footballer. Having 10 of him in your team may work, but having him as a goalkeeper may not work even though he always wanted to play there, just needs people to tell him where to play for the benefit of the team. It has been made very clear on a number of times to his face (rather than hiding behind a keyboard) that he was a total moronic w*nker with the Bournemouth thing and his public persona. Nobody has yet asked the real question which is who and what has he actually found/stumbled across/conned/sold to? and unfortunately it will never be answered unless his group wins. Everyone is too ready to cast the first stone (rightly so with the facts at their disposal about him). Many would look pretty darned silly if it was a local version of Paul Allen (but then it likely isn't and anyway nobody would believe it anyway!) And of course the other question - who leaked his name to the Echo and why the whole front page treatment and who gained from that? Was it just co-incidence it happened the day Fry was discussing a bid? Did it actually fit with everything else that group has done in terms of keeping below the radar? Anyway most importantly the stir fry was great - Blue Dragon sauces are magical, now off to watch Battlestar Galactica boxed DVD set, back in about 6 weeks:o:grin:

Right then, time for a leak. Don't worry I got my tin hat out the attic, bit dusty but what the heck. Just had a call from MJ who many will know was at the football match last week talking "carefully" to many of us who has told me the following two interesting bits of information. Personally I HATE the thought of posting this sort of stuff, but then I thought actually it isn't earth shattering and also is in some ways re-assuring. 1) Apparently, his name is not on any bid that has been presented to Fry 2) The group that he is "assisting" submitted a bid on Friday in writing, it has not been withdrawn. Now on top of that input, I would then offer an opinion, which is that I would assume that the offer was not at the level that Fry wished to see, but also interestingly, the phrase "still on the table" indicates to me that maybe there is some insurance sitting there in case Fry's meeting doesn't go too well today. So there you go, a snippet and a source and nothing too controversial. I'm off to cook Sweet & Sour Pork for dinner

The story of the day part two... Well, I suppose it was inevitable really, after the magical EricofArabia moment in the pub for the Wolves game - well at least not likely to concede a goal in the first 35 seconds like we did the last tiohsh1t... 35 + 38 seconds makes 73, and the Flints score after - approximately 71 seconds.... Oh cr8p, now what to do. The Magners isn't gonna help, the boys behind the bench are hooting their derision, we look an absolute shambles. No sign of our midfield and quizzical looks from the two centre backs, a few plaintiff attempts to yell back out to them about holding their shape and their line doesn't quite work, then amazingly, the Jam man (yes that Harrod's Strawberry Jam is delicious) Hamster drops back into the hole just in front of the CB's - (although wasn't so much a hole more like a gaping chasm) and suddenly we seem to be a little less over-run. Silversaint & Saint Kenny start to push up more and amazingly we have used my advanced telepathic skills to morph into a wing back formation, suddenly mini-DP is diving in making last ditch clearances, DarrenleTiss is winning everything in the air and we look like we can actually play this game. And then I notice we are starting to play with some confidence, oh cr*p again, a couple of times instead of belting the ball safely into touch we start to try and nutmeg 3 players at once with no cover. Works the first couple of times and then arrgh mistake on the touchline pass bang woomph 2-0. Suddenly the full horror of what JP & Wotte must have gone through leaps to mind - you want to scream WHY DIDN'T YOU PUT IT INTO ROW Z YOU NUMPTY, but then you remember you aren't a spectator any longer and you smile, do the big c'mon lads heads up, stylish stuff, keep it going... Oh and of course the abuse is getting louder behind the bench and I'm being blinded by Nickh as he tries not to let his grin show too much. Then we sort of had a shot, I even recall their keeper made a save and suddenly the ball is in the back of THEIR net - phew, no great celebrations more like a FF for that. And then again, the whole trying to be too clever on our own goal line, I'm yelling OUT OUT OUT and suddenly we've lost the ball, a despairing interception, ball hit onto hand and penalty. Can it possibly get worse? yep, it was my lad who gave it away... I look around and realise I had forgotten to put the drinks bottles into a reachable location, only bottle to kick is my Magners - sod that. Now what the heck do you do? I can't pull anyone off, I've tried the telepathic trick, Hamster has been stopping the rot the two goals were soft mistakes, do I push him back into a more advanced midfield role. None of the above, the poor guy is racked with cramp and has to come off, the sub is on and straight into midfield. DLT & the Disintegrator look a bit exposed at firt but then work out the new angles and suddenly we're bringing the ball out of defence, some pace, control and vision, bl**dy hell my lad can actually PLAY, then a neat passing movement through midfield, the ball into the box and YES 3-2. The strange thing is that all of this seems to have taken about five minutes, the only sign of time passing is the level of the Magners and it's half time... Now what? Do I take some assertive action and start telling these guys what they should do or should I go for the motivational.... The story continues tomorrow after I get slated for an ITK leak I need to post ciao chaps

Crikey I agree with Alps again.... Although I would like to add one simple caveat. Could they PLEASE hurry up and get ALL their stories published in one go so that we can actually have that closure. really am not looking forward to having petty leaks and point scoring for the next 10 years while we try and make a fresh start one way or the other.

Re-reading Nick's OP, it is actually a fair opinion, and there are some facts in the public domain that help point in the direction he at least is thinking. 34 sales packs were announced. Interesting that he chose to give a specific number (and lots of leaks around those numbers) Pinnacle appear all over the media, then Fry is having meetings and hopeful (last Tuesday/Wednesday) but not it would seem with Pinnacle but the mystery buyers. MJ's face is then plastered all over the media - how did THAT happen? it certainly doesn't seem to have been done by MJ himself, for one thing there were no quotes and secondly not even any bad spelling. Then yesterday he is suddenly hopeful again with some mystery new bidder. Nick's quote Not sure we need any more facts there is enough odd evidence to at least form an opnion. What would we as fans prefer? - Finding someone who pays 30 mil to Fry for the club but then has nothing left to invest, or someone who pays him 1 pound and has 30 mil to invest. (Obviously the reality will be a middle ground but I also get the feeling that every last tweak Fry pushes reduces what could be spent on the club. Remember when you INVEST in something you expect a RETURN, I want more investment in the playing side as I believe that gives the fans AND the investor the best chance of getting somewhere

The worry is though John that giving a chance is fair, but it takes time, and we are starting to run out of time. Wages are due, anyone making a bid must do a final due dilligence period in order to confirm the data the administrator has probably provided them, that takes time, will a bidder pay out 400k in wages before they have control of the club? What happens if their lawyers unearth something unexpected. The administrator probably needs to give a go ahead to a buyer today IF the wages are to be paid on time. Delaying the wages means the Football CLub is insolvent, if that happens even IF the deal goes through we could get docked another 15 points. Chances are fine, time isn't, that's the worry

But now we really know what that anything means? It only really hit me when I got to SMS for the Forum game. Last time I made it back was the Bury cup game, this last year I was never able to get back as I don't travel so much now for work. Just looking at the building, the design, the work, the hopes we all had, it actually knocked the stuffing out of me when I realised it could all be gone in less than a couple of weeks. That is why I don't see this stuff as a battle to buy the club I see it as a battle to save it. IF there is some sort of choice then that would be fantastic, we'd all love it to be Paul Allen, but if it is some form of Private Individual or funding then we would have to accept that. The PROBLEM with the PLC was that for too long the Directors were not the owners, it wasn't their MONEY they were gambling, only their cv's. With an owner having much more hands on involvement in what is being done with their money I cannot see it being something that has to be always "cutting edge, revolutionary, or simple a giant gamble", so that way I see we have hope.

That of course depends on who actually was put in place to sit at that table or of course whether they actually did at all. Don't think anyone in their right mind can honestly believe that it was MJ alone, considering the proof of funds needed. Hopefully, Fry must have had something come into his inbox later yesterday that gave him this "renewed optimism" this morning in the media

What is a bid? An Indicative offer in writing leads to a period of additional due dilligence. That is needed because an Administrator does not guarantee that the information they provide at the first stage of "due dilligence" is correct. A verbal offer would lead to talks about the details. It is all very well to say that you are offering a figure, but there could be a whole raft of issues as to how that bid is not only constructed but who and how it is paid out. For example a verbal offer could be made and then in the details it may transpire that, for example, a player had been sold or a new verbal contract offer not agreed. Neither of those are a bid for the club that can be turned into a contract, and the reporting standards on the Echo or the people leaking the info probably don't recognise that there can be different types of offers made at different times as a part of the whole process. It is not easy, my weekend host who specialises in this stuff reckoned we still had a way to go and said that most of the time potential buyers feel they are trying to hit a moving goalpost and the administrator can never believe that the buyers don't see everything as clearly as he does. Often such deals are achieved by those with the most patience and stamina and not necessarily the best bids.

Yes, of course. priority 1 survival as a club, priority 2 getting out of League 1 Anything else is irrelevant and it matters not who achieves it

Interesting. So my taxi driver chappie (rated a double F in the rating system) says that over the weekend Fry gets worried he may have to send his 4 grand a pair ebay goalposts he has in his garden back to Wembley because he's taken one risk too many and may have screwed his career, then this afternoon he doesn't answer his phone when a bid is being made from ANOTHER group. Nick - sounds plausible, tell your source not to take any cr*p from Fry and push the deal through on their OWN terms. Time is short we want a club to whinge about next year

Probably find we're like the House of Commons, paying out for second homes, cars, maids and the like, not to mention the National Insurance on top of their money You forget Thomas who's likely on almost as much as Skacel for keeping the phsyio employed this year