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Ffs, how old are you?

Personally mate, I wouldn't let any set of rules stop me seeing my family.

But we're never gonna survive unless we get a little crazy. Seal

I'm sure the conservatives will champion this example of on campus free speech.

https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/news/leeds-news/live-leeds-black-lives-matter-20770090 Hardly kicking off, small diverse crowd with a couple of ginger kids with placards. Probably an over reaction but so is your post.

Thanks.

A couple of quick questions. So when this thing happens that going to make us think bugger, why won't the 'believers' be affected by the thing What is the timeframe of the thing happening. I reckon if you answer those two questions I will be able to guess what the thing is.

If you think 6 million deaths is tenuous, you need a dictionary pal.

That's a one size fits all approach, life is more nuanced than that. Is the swastika beyond redemption, discuss.

What's the story on work permits and stuff like that now we are out of the EU.

https://blacklivesmatter.uk/official-statement WELCOME - We stand together across the globe to change the world, we kneel together in peace and solidarity asserting Black people are treated as equals to White people. It is a human right to receive racial equality, social and criminal justice in the societies we live and to receive parity as full citizens of the country and as a united nation. We are a non-political, non-partisan, non-violence platform. Some content published on our website may have limited political content by the very nature of a country state governed and under a system of democracy. We operate in a humanitarian capacity and concern before all else. We are not operating in a political capacity, are not a member of nor are we connected with any political party or political campaign.

Oh come on it's not a political issue to seek racial equality. What century are we living in. The tenuous political element is that some in BLM hold left wing views. But the core aim of the movement is racial equality.

You have to get home again! Anyway Brighton train in Lancing, that will cut an hour off.

Both are organisations concerned with the welfare of a specific group, with tenuous political associations that most people are capable of ignoring but some people choose not to. Feels exactly the same to me.

I don't know what point you are trying to make now.

That's just silly, so you are going to dismiss the celebration of racial unity in its entirety, happy to accept the negative connotations or doing so, despite agreeing with the intention because a political movement half way around the world, that has no bearing on your life, uses the same gesture. That my friend is a choice you choose to make and that is my point. We are now starting to go around in circles.

I do because it is, how many times does Southgate have to say it or what do they have to do for you to believe it?

Of course they are observed booing before the match, but they are booing to protest against a political outfit dontchaknow.

I've dismantled your baggage argument. England have never knelt for a political reason, Southgate and the boys have said why they are kneeling, the knee doesn't belong exclusively to BLM, it was used by Colin Kaepernick, it's a century old gesture. The link to England kneeling and BLM political stuff is now very very tenuous So you have a choice to ascribe all the baggage you want to the knee, or believe in the purity of the gesture. Personally I think it's disingenuous, in light of everything that the England team has said to persist with linking the two things together. It's as rediculous as claiming someone being knighted by the queen is kneeling for political reasons or booing at your mates wedding for kneeling because those pesky black people who want to defund the police and destroy the nuclear family kneel as well.

Only as hysterical as the boys on here were about statues being toppled.

Because that's too visable and it's uncool to be racist.

Is the reaction really hysterical? I think Southgate and the boys have been very messured. I think people have been disappointed and a bit embarrassed, but not hysterical.

Great observation about wanting to return to the woke stuff.

Ian Wrights new conservatory?

But you don't accept that some people booing might be racist. I don't accept that there is any baggage to the kneeling, it's a universal thousands of years old gesture. You can choose to not associate the baggage or you can choose to blow it up out of all proportion.