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I posted that on the main board thread. Works for me. You could simply keep the old and sick in isolation for a month whilst everybody else gets the infection and builds the herd immunity. Would be a lot quicker and less damaging to the country than letting it rumble on for 18 months.

I think those quotes make it more likely. The certainty of 'won't' has gone and been replaced with "scope for" and "want to"

Does anyone else feel compelled to google every time someone posts from a phone they havent heard of? Probs just me.....

Corona

I used to do a lot of work on global fisheries stats. China was the only country globally where we knew they used to outright lie.

Happy that the perfidious EU get what's coming to them, or distraught it will delay negotiations?

Think about it. All isolation does is stop you catching it or passing it on whilst you're isolated. But this virus is highly infectious, an average on 6-7 new infections per contact. You'd need to reduce that number to below one per contact to control the spread. Once people come out of isolation the numbers of new infections will likely rebound. That is exactly what is predicted for China and Korea. All it takes is one person arriving on a plane. The virus isnt going away unless the whole world eradicates it - and that took 40 years for smallpox The Imperial College epidemiology report, which informed UK policy talks about needing restricted movements for up to 18 months, a massive hit to the economy and no certainty of it being effective. Personally if I was organising the response I'd organise massive free street parties where all the healthy youngish people could get deliberately infected whilst the old and sick are kept at home for a couple of weeks. It would be over in a month. Current policy will crash the economy, load up a massive amount of new debt and the numbers over the long term will likely end up about the same.

This is the Imperial college epidemiology report which has been credited with shifting UK and US policy from slowing and delay to containment and suppression. Imperial push the latter but indicate people might need to isolate and distance for up to 18 months. I just dont see it working. People wont comply for that long and even if they did some additional people might avoid the virus but the country would be royally ****ed, economically and socially after 18 months of isolation https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf

She's only second year, but even in second year an important part is sitting in on surgery, GP consultations etc. The only students being physically allowed in are year 5. From the way the uni are talking in sounds as if they think its unlikely anyone will be back before the autumn term. Going to leave a big gap in practical experience at the least

The point at which herd immunity is achieved depends on the infectivity of the virus and many other factors. 60% is arbitary.

Gf is studying medicine. They have moved to online also. But years 3-5 are clinical - in hospital dealing with actual patients. How are you going to replicate that online? How will they get the experience necessary?

They're existing anti viral drugs, not vaccines. Doctors will routinely try existing meds when faced with a patient with a condition where there is no treatment protocol. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/here-are-some-existing-drugs-may-be-repurposed-treat-coronavirus-n1162021

SOG this stuff is in the news. It’s not inside info. Maybe consider posting more sparingly?

I know. I just didnt want to get into the nuts and bolts of it, enabling West to bluster over every point.

Its not just morons panic buying though, the pattern of how and where food is bought and consumed has changed. Almost certainly supermarkets are busier as people stay away from sandwich shops, restaurants / cafes and school / work canteens. How much of it is supply chain issues and how much simply supermarkets being caught out by demand and not adjusting their orders quick enough, who knows?

The latter. According to the Telegraph yesterday Civil servants previously working on Brexit negotiations have been drafted to contingency planning for corona, as have many of their European counterparts. Basically there isnt enough capacity to do everything - and even if there was you can't negotiate trade arrangements if you don't even know if industry will be closed or people will be allowed to travel.

If you all knew who it would be thats an indictment of you and your management colleagues, not him. He takes the **** because he can. You enable him.

Meh. In the end total deaths will be roughly the same as a bad flu year. Reckon c20,000

Roughly the same amount of food is being consumed - but its being bought in different places. Supermarkets are up and restaurants, sandwich shops and work / school canteens are down. How much of it is supply chain issues and how much simply supermarkets being caught out by demand and not adjusting their orders quick enough, who knows?

The issue is probably security of confidential patient info. The hospital would be breaking the law by allowing such info to be accessed from insecure systems or viewed in insecure locations (eg where unauthorised people could have access).

GF is a med student and has just been told the uni is closing today and they may not restart term in May.

Don’t doubt it. Airlines, clubs, pubs and restaurants are ****ed. Netflix and amazon are quids in

Erm they report both. There have been 22 record national highs so far in 2020 and no national record lows.

I'm starting a new job on Monday and they are saying work from home. Not quite sure how that is going to pan out...

Measurements are taken at over 20,000 sites every day. Its not surprising or news if one site in one country records a record low on one day, especially a station which has only been there 30 years. What matters is the trend. Here is just a taste - as of March 13, 23 national monthly all-time heat records had been beaten or tied in 2020: January: Norway, South Korea, Angola, Congo Brazzaville, Dominica, Mexico, Indonesia, Guinea Bissau, Gambia, Sao Tome and Principe, Cuba February: Spain, Antarctica, Azerbaijan, Costa Rica, The Bahamas, Switzerland, Maldives, Gambia, Russia, Seychelles March: Paraguay, Cabo Verde No monthly national cold records have been beaten or tied in 2020. https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/eye-of-the-storm/february-2020-earths-2nd-warmest-february-and-3rd-warmest-month-on-record/