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So why aren't we staying in the Customs Union? That is the old Common Market. Britain has been transformed since 1973 from the sick man of Europe to one of the leading economies. The EU has changed, but so has Britain - we now vote for whoever makes the biggest, rashest promises. We're leaving the single market so we can control immigration? Immigration is the highest priority? Odd then that May has done nothing on non EU immigration in the past six months - just as she did nothing in years as Home Secretary.

President Xi of China:- "There are no winners in trade wars" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-38650487 He's not wrong

If and when it happens Wes, if and when.

"But the prime minister promised to push for the "greatest possible" access to the single market following Brexit". http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38641208 We'll have to wait and see how much is real and how much wordplay and semantics.

Thats the Customs Union - pretty much what the Common Market was before the European Union.

You can certainly make an argument that emerging top quality players will come to us as a 'finishing school' before they go on to a 'top' club because they know we will let them rather than holding them prisoner. But there is also a danger that strategy becomes a Catch 22 - players who like it here and would be prepared to stay if their quality team mates also stayed end up leaving because of the wholesale dismantling every year. Im not naive, I know we cant compete financially at the top end, but I do think we sometimes sell too quickly and too readily.

What makes Southampton different? "At this club when a player wants to go and we get a fair offer for him, we let him go". The other clubs are going to blown out of the water by this

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I like him for the fact he says what he believes, but agree as an electoral strategy its a total gift for the Tories who are in disarray.

You made all that money last year? Wow. Odd that you had to take out a new chattel mortgage then.

Whatever happened after your PM when you asked me not to rock the boat because you were about to sell the company for multi millions. Didnt that fairy story pan out either? How much public grant funding have you had for research and how little in terms of sales have you got to show for it? Why is the company still so small it qualifies for submitting abbreviated accounts to Companies House? Rich? does taking public subsidy for eff all return count as being rich?

Lol. You're behaving like a smacked puppy because I pointed out your plaintive 'its not fair post' was about you wanting to buy cheap Chinese poison and the EU wouldnt let you. Most of Cuadrilla sites are small and hemmed in by human habitation. Heres some reading for you: Bloomberg estimate it would cost between 47 and 81 pence per therm to extract shale gas in Europe. OIES’ 2010 study “Can Unconventional Gas be a Game Changer in European Markets” said shale extraction would likely be even more expensive, costing between 49 and 102 pence per therm. Ernest & Young in its 2013 report “Shale Gas in Europe: Revolution or evolution?” said it would cost between 53 and 79 pence per therm. Average gas price in 2016 was 32p per therm.

We arent in America. ****ing surprising to you I know. Sites here are much smaller and the regulatory hurdles higher. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/investing/11006723/fracking-for-Shale-gas-the-dotcom-bubble-of-our-times.html https://www.oxfordenergy.org/wpcms/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/UK-Shale-Gas-GPC1.pdf

Its also really expensive. At most locations its only economically viable when oil is above $80 per barrel. We might never see that again.

Not necessarily mutually exclusive - Fonte could want a Kelvin Davis type deal - where we stupidly carried on paying him long past when he could contribute to the team.

Theres got to be an almighty car crash coming. May is talking tough because 60% of Tory voters want hard Brexit - but the majority of those same voters say they arent prepared to be poorer as a result of Brexit. Leaving the single market will make us poorer, at least in the short term if its done before other agreements are in place. I reckon she will get a Caesar stab in the back in two years.

The EU wouldnt let me import a herbicide from China, just because its damaging to health and water supplies. Boo hoo.

The will of the people six months ago was narrowly to leave. In other years it has fluctuated between fervently pro and radically anti. Who knows what it will be in another two years if asked a different question about an as yet unknown deal. When asked about hard Brexit only 38% of voters supported it. Public opinion changes all the time, most often not based on anything much substantive. Thats assuming the electorate are even asked their opinion. The generally pro EU MPs and Lords may decide not to. Whatever actually transpires will likely be a massive Brexit lite fudge sold as Britain talking tough to the world.

Article 50 has to be triggered, that is the will of the people as expressed in the referendum. After that though everything is dependent on how negotiations go, and they won't necessarily end in leaving. Imo there should be a referendum on the terms of the deal but failing that a free vote in Parliament. Every and any option is possible, from staying with current arrangements to hard Brexit - but hard Brexit is the least likely.

Bingo. Exactly what I mean.

He's right though, it was a sweeping generalisation that made you look dim and uninformed. The problem for Brexiteers is seeing the world as you want it to be,not as it is. If you engaged with the issues / obstacles and offered solutions the Brexit case would be more credible. Simply denying realities isn't going to attract the majority support you'll need in both Parliament and the ballot box.

Having access and having free access are very different things, as you know.

The irony is that Brexiteers desperately need the EU to be nice to them, even whilst they keep up the full volume BS. There is no majority support amongst the UK electorate for hard Brexit. Unless the EU offer them a lifeline they're screwed.

Yep, same thoughts and almost the same words!

Maybe he is just trying to cash in on the medal. Thats more understandable / realistic than thinking he is a European Champion player so can command a place in the team at one of the top top clubs in Europe - which is my suspicion.