buctootim

Most people feel the media is right wing. I'd interpret that to mean the media is to the right of where they are personally - which is the opposite of the media reflecting their views. The Tories have been in government more since 1945 but the number of 'left' votes is higher (if you combine Labour and Liberals/ LDs/SDP). If you add in the fact that older people vote more than young people and older people tend to be more conservative then the UK is more left leaning than the records of elections would suggest. Im centre ground politics and I find the Mirror and Guardian too hard going to read on a regular basis. The Mirror is as unbalanced as the Sun. The Guardian too worthy and slightly sanctimonious. Id say people mostly choose their papers based on the gossip, crossword, celebrity coverage and sport and put up with the politics.

You might be right about Germany and Sweden, who knows? You might be right about the British media not being the most right wing in Europe, but only in this sample - who can say without further research? What is undeniable is the British public think British media is biased to the right - not just on one issue like immigration, but across the board.

They would, and do, argue that the media reflects readers / viewers preferences, not shapes them. Its a very simplistic black and white view of a very clever and nuanced industry imo. The media manipulate public perception and views just as surely as advertising and marketing does.

For me the worst figure is that for all seven countries on nearly all issues between a quarter and a third answered 'don't know'. How can one third of people be so clueless that they don't have an opinion on whether the media is too left wing or right wing? Its not like explaining nuclear fusion.

Gite

amongst the largest clubs in which fans have a significant minority holding doesn't have the same ring to it.

I-phones are like the Blackberrys of 15 years ago. Known as Crackberries because they were so addictive, owners condescended to everybody else, absolutely must have top dog for 7 or 8 years, and now nowhere. Apple's marketing has been very slick in the past but they have started to slip up since Jobs died. Market share is starting to slide. At some point the move away will reach critical mass and they will be become very uncool and old school, almost overnight.

Yes - that comment was a nod towards those on the Corbyn thread who deny that the media have a role in shaping public opinion. I've always found that a very odd argument given the size of the advertising industry, the importance or corporate PR and the efforts dictatorships go to to control what the public hear.

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Apparently https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/02/07/british-press-most-right-wing-europe/ Cant say Im too surprised. Notable that the Swedes find their press too left wing. The findings call into question the idea that the press reflects their readerships views. Given Denmarks very neutral split I wonder if they have any 'balance' laws, or its just a happy coincidence.

Nice! weltschmerz

Yep its here. From "passing like Barcelona" to "your son is a nonce" in 15 posts. Impressive even by football forum standards. http://www.fansonline.net/portsmouth/mb/view.php?id=619666

Bangle

That was a holding statement from an unnamed press officer in response to questions about a letter sent earlier the same day they probably hadnt seen and Corbyn hadnt yet read. But Corbyn is to blame and Blair, Brown and Miliband are home free. You should go work in the media, maybe the Sun, they could use your skills there, or corporate communications for the Saudi army.

Toner

Ha classic shot into foot. I'll help you out with the reading and comprehension. Its not Corbyn who turned a blind eye. The letter appealing for help from Corbyn was only sent yesterday. The letter alleges decades of misogyny by Muslim Labour councillors - ie under Blair and Brown's watch. There was a formal complaint made by the MP for Luton which was not acted on under Milibands watch in February 2014. Corbyn is being asked to clear up the mess he has inherited and is being made aware of. Lets give him more than 24 hours eh? I wonder why you were so silent for decades but jump on it now? There's a whiff of something pungent. http://www.mwnuk.co.uk//go_files/resources/422693-Labour%20Party%20Complaint%20Letter.pdf

He's obsessed with using the same phrases to the point of ridicule. The Phil Space of Blairite Labour.

I thought 'wtf is e on about, looks right to me' until I googled him and saw Dinenage. Im sure he never used to be called that, Ive always known him as Dineage.

The media knows if its readership is broadly conservative or broadly liberal but clearly the reader / viewer doesn't have a view on each new policy or event which happens. Thats when they are fed what to think. Over time its cumulative.

Maybe dying would have been preferable to a permananently vegetative state.

What do you mean?

My mum used to work for the TGWU. They paid well with good holidays, but she said it was the worst employer she ever had. Treated their staff really badly.

A 63% win rate? - sure, after all they've won 11 from 27 so far (40%) and are on a stellar run of two wins in six. Got to dream, coz if you dont have a dream, how you gonna have a dream come true?

Its a great move for the club. I cant help wondering if Martin Hunter is the right man to lead it. Always seems a bit dour and performance of the academy seems to be going through a bit of dip.