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No I dont think so. Awards or clubs based on race should be out. Awards or clubs based on a particular interest (which may be practically the same thing in some cases) should be fine.

Ive no idea. Many of those old colonials are dying off now. Not sure what is happening to the clubs. Strange places though. I went to one in the hills above Kandy in Sri Lanka. Half timebered pseudo tudor pile. Tennis court outside, snooker room, crooquet lawn. The place was run by local Lankans - though they bowed and scraped to me even though I looked like a scruffy git in a t shirt but refused to let the lankan driver who was wearing a collar and tie in. I had to smuggle him a drink.

My aunt lives out in Nairobi. The club there was like a scene from White Mischief fast forwarded 50 years.

Thomas Cook - Cliff Richard, Summer holiday

Thewre already are Dune as you well know. Any expats club is a temple of cricket, hunting and pictures of the Queen taken in 1954.

Are black players a minority in the premiership? Debateable.

Or if a group of white people decided to award a prize to the best white player.

I googled 'fat bloke southampton game' and this came up weirdly enough.

Would definitely keep him and Lambert up front. Right wing seems to be a problem area for us with Guly and Chaplow filling in there recently with De Ridder comiing on later. Wonder what the long term plan is.

Totally awful / laughable - like someone pimped a Hummer as a joke.

Thats a good example of the misunderstanding and double standards. Spanish for black is 'negro'. You can say 'black' in England but you cant say 'negro' . What is Spanish speaker supposed to make of that?

But some races are superior at different things. The Japanese and European Jews score highest on IQ tests. Nepalese have 15% greater lung capacity even at sea level. South American indian tribes can exist on much less protein than western europeans. There hasnt been a white winner of the 100m Olympics for 30 years, nor a black one of the swimming. Its about how you treat people that matters, not trying to pretend that everyone from every country is identical.

I say this post is racist. I feel it and you are not allowed to refute that. You are guilty because I say. What you have said makes no sense. Racism is wrong. So are McCarthy witchhunts for reds under the beds and nightime lynchings of paediatricians down our street. Seems to me there is so much hypocrisy and posturing around racism. People competing to be the most publicly right on (and then going home and doing saying something different) that there are no real conversations about the issues of race, nationalism, flags, immigration and globalisation anymore. At some point someone always plays the 'burn the witch / heretic / racist' card. There is a natural human trait to want to be with 'people like me'. There are all kinds of markers for that - age, class, football club allegiance, nationality, first language spoken, fat /thin, ugly/good looking, gender and race. Nationlists and loyalists in NI managed to divide themselves without having an obvious race difference. A black actor was being interviewed on the radio a few months ago about the making of 'Planet of the Apes'. Cant remember his name. He was talking about how when the cast and extras were having breakfast out of makeup then you would find tables of latinos, blacks and whites almost totally segregating themselves. Later, for lunch when people were totally clad in costume people would segregate themselves by Gorilla, chimp and orang utan. Racism is about treating people worse (or different) than you would someone of your own race. Not crucifying someone from a different country because they unwisely allowed themselves to be interviewd in their second language on a subject where the hypocrites are waiting to descend (and yeah I know I will inevitably be labelled a racist by the less acute for posting this)

Shouldn't you be posting on the "failed students taking our jobs" thread?

Its not imo. People are saying the dinners have no value. I think they do, as does a forum. (reply to Hypo, I forgot to quote)

From that list of manufacturers a Renault Kangoo or Vauxhall Zafira would probably suit you, in both you sit quite high off the road. They are relatively cheap, so you are much more likely to get a well specced one instead of a very basic bmw. Both of those are very good cars if you care more about getting a the best vehicle for you, your missus and three kids than trying to impress a mate. Ford Focus is good too. http://www.renault.co.uk/cars/model/new-kangoo/product.aspx http://www.vauxhall.co.uk/vehicles/vauxhall-range/cars/zafira/index.html

Thanks for the semantics. The point is more people will opt to chat to Cortese in a group of 12 round a table with a glass of wine in their hand than take pot luck with hundreds of other peole.

Its not about opportunity its about desire. We all have the opportunity to be a politician or double glazing salesman, most choose not to. A far greater range of people are likely to accept an invitation from the chairman to a private dinner at SMS than enter some ballot via Radio Solent for the chance to maybe get to stand in a hall and a further more remote chance of getting to ask a question.

They've got to be better than a bunch of lazy arses who spend their days posting on footie forums.

No. I do post on there though. I think its weird that you can get more laughter, interest and good banter on a rival board than you can on this one. The much much higher Brighton board traffic and content from a smaller fanbase simply shows what this one could be and isnt anymore.

Thats not true. I know of two people who have gone to the dinners who used to post on here but no longer do so - mainly becomes most often its a humourless, cynical place to be. Some club forums are used by a very large section of the fans.

Its a report from the meal from someone who was there and is known by several posters here. To anybody outside of this surreal little universe it is feedback. But instead of discussing cthe content we get instead theories about how it could potentially be bull**** and semantic arguments over adjectives. No wonder Brightons board has four times the traffic and four times the interest.

Wow. The ratio of normal posters to knobs on this forum seems to decline every day. Thanks to the OP. Interesting read. Its obvious why the other 11 guests havent posted.

You should speak to them before jacking in Southampton. The minimum entry requirement is "300 tariff points, typically from 3 A-levels or equivalent". BCCC isnt the same as BBB, especially if you have already had a false start.

I seriously doubt you'd get a third. You have to be both stupid and lazy to get a third in a humanities subject. I was plain bone idle for my degree, did nothing and wrote most of the 10,000 word final dissertation in the lecture hall in two hours before the deadline for handing it in and got a 2:2 (uprated to 'getting a second' at interviews). Ultimately only you know what you should do. If you genuinely cant hack the course then chuck it - it wont be the end of the world. However I genuinely think you will make life easier for yourself and end up with more options if you get a reasonable degree from Southampton.