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1. Liverpool 2. Arsenal 3. Man United 4. Southampton 5. Man City 6. Chelsea 7. Spurs 8. Everton 9. Newcastle 10. Aston Villa 11. Swansea 12. West Ham 13. WBA 14. Cardiff 15. Fulham 16. Norwich 17. Palace/Watford 18. Stoke 19. Sunderland 20. Hull
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Are the ends more important than the means to you?
trousers replied to buctootim's topic in The Saints
As long as we don't end up shafting tax payers, charities, businesses and players I'm at ease with giving Cortese's "fast-track" approach a go. I'd rather look back in 10 years (when perhaps Cortese and the Liebherrs have ridden off into the sunset) and say "well that was a blast" after a few years spent trying (and maybe succeeding) to infiltrate the higher echelons of the Premier League and Europe than to have pootled along as a mid-to-lower table side. Yes, I'm fully aware this sounds like the success model deployed by Pompey over the last 10 years but the key difference is that the money supposedly being thrown Cortese's way is 'clean' and not at the expense of the tax payer et al. Let's enjoy the ride for a few years. It's only a game after all... -
http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?45005-We-are-top-ten-!!!!
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Sums up my view too. Pretty much common sense at the end of the day.
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The 'who we've been linked to this summer thread'
trousers replied to Saint Garrett's topic in The Saints
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/liverpool-fc-transfer-rumour-mill-3902611 -
It turns out the difference was..... we hit the woodwork more than they did.... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?45005-We-are-top-ten-!!!!
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So THAT's the difference between us and West Ham then...
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Indeed. The logical extension of this would be to do away with the "civil partnership" relationship tier altogether once "marriage" is available to all. I don't see the point of having two tiers of formal relationship once there's one equal all encompassing tier. I assume that's what'll happen eventually?
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That figure includes £2,303,932 attributed to "Overseas TV". Seems an odd breakdown given this is simply a parachute payment.
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*cough* Saints = 23rd *cough* edit: ah, assume you've taken out the foreign teams? Ignore me...
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http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/2012-13/may/premier-league-total-broadcasting-payments-season-2012-13.html [TABLE=width: 489] [TR=bgcolor: transparent] [TH=width: 85, bgcolor: #639EC8]TEAM [/TH] [TH=width: 85, bgcolor: #639EC8]EQUAL SHARE [/TH] [TH=width: 85, bgcolor: #639EC8]FACILITY FEES [/TH] [TH=width: 105, bgcolor: #639EC8, align: center]MERIT PAYMENT [/TH] [TH=width: 85, bgcolor: #639EC8]OVERSEAS TV[/TH] [TH=width: 85, bgcolor: #639EC8]TOTAL PAYMENT [/TH] [/TR] [TR=bgcolor: transparent] [TD=width: 85, bgcolor: transparent]Arsenal [/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]13,803,038[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]11,525,944[/TD] [TD=width: 105, bgcolor: transparent, align: center] 12,849,977[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent]18,931,726[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]57,110,685[/TD] [/TR] [TR=bgcolor: transparent] [TD=width: 85, bgcolor: transparent]Aston Villa [/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]13,803,038[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]7,697,488[/TD] [TD=width: 105, bgcolor: transparent, align: center] 4,535,286[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent]18,931,726[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]44,967,538[/TD] [/TR] [TR=bgcolor: transparent] [TD=width: 85, bgcolor: transparent]Chelsea [/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]13,803,038[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]8,654,602[/TD] [TD=width: 105, bgcolor: transparent, align: center] 13,605,858[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent]18,931,726[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]54,995,224[/TD] [/TR] [TR=bgcolor: transparent] [TD=width: 85, bgcolor: transparent]Everton [/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]13,803,038[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]7,697,488[/TD] [TD=width: 105, bgcolor: transparent, align: center] 11,338,215[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent]18,931,726[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]51,770,467[/TD] [/TR] [TR=bgcolor: transparent] [TD=width: 85, bgcolor: transparent]Fulham [/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]13,803,038[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]5,783,260[/TD] [TD=width: 105, bgcolor: transparent, align: center] 6,802,929[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent]18,931,726[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]45,320,953[/TD] [/TR] [TR=bgcolor: transparent] [TD=width: 85, bgcolor: transparent]Liverpool [/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]13,803,038[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]11,525,944[/TD] [TD=width: 105, bgcolor: transparent, align: center] 10,582,334[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent]18,931,726[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]54,843,042[/TD] [/TR] [TR=bgcolor: transparent] [TD=width: 85, bgcolor: transparent]Man City [/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]13,803,038[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]11,047,387[/TD] [TD=width: 105, bgcolor: transparent, align: center] 14,361,739[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent]18,931,726[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]58,143,890[/TD] [/TR] [TR=bgcolor: transparent] [TD=width: 85, bgcolor: transparent]Man Utd [/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]13,803,038[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center] 12,961,615[/TD] [TD=width: 105, bgcolor: transparent, align: center] 15,117,620[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent]18,931,726[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]60,813,999[/TD] [/TR] [TR=bgcolor: transparent] [TD=width: 85, bgcolor: transparent]Newcastle [/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]13,803,038[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]8,654,602[/TD] [TD=width: 105, bgcolor: transparent, align: center] 3,779,405[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent]18,931,726[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]45,168,771[/TD] [/TR] [TR=bgcolor: transparent] [TD=width: 85, bgcolor: transparent]Norwich [/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]13,803,038[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]5,783,260[/TD] [TD=width: 105, bgcolor: transparent, align: center] 7,558,810[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent]18,931,726[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]46,076,834[/TD] [/TR] [TR=bgcolor: transparent] [TD=width: 85, bgcolor: transparent]QPR[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]13,803,038[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]6,261,817[/TD] [TD=width: 105, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]755,881[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent]18,931,726[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]39,752,462[/TD] [/TR] [TR=bgcolor: transparent] [TD=width: 85, bgcolor: transparent]Reading[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]13,803,038[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]5,783,260[/TD] [TD=width: 105, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]1,511,762[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent]18,931,726[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]40,029,786[/TD] [/TR] [TR=bgcolor: transparent] [TD=width: 85, bgcolor: transparent]S'hampton[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]13,803,038[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]5,783,260[/TD] [TD=width: 105, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]5,291,167[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent]18,931,726[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]43,809,191[/TD] [/TR] [TR=bgcolor: transparent] [TD=width: 85, bgcolor: transparent]Stoke[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]13,803,038[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]5,783,260[/TD] [TD=width: 105, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]6,047,048[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent]18,931,726[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]44,565,072[/TD] [/TR] [TR=bgcolor: transparent] [TD=width: 85, bgcolor: transparent]S'derland[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]13,803,038[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]7,697,488[/TD] [TD=width: 105, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]3,023,524[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent]18,931,726[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]43,455,776[/TD] [/TR] [TR=bgcolor: transparent] [TD=width: 85, bgcolor: transparent]Swansea[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]13,803,038[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]5,783,260[/TD] [TD=width: 105, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]9,070,572[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent]18,931,726[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]47,588,596[/TD] [/TR] [TR=bgcolor: transparent] [TD=width: 85, bgcolor: transparent]Tottenham[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]13,803,038[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]11,047,387[/TD] [TD=width: 105, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]12,094,096[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent]18,931,726[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]55,876,247[/TD] [/TR] [TR=bgcolor: transparent] [TD=width: 85, bgcolor: transparent]W Brom[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]13,803,038[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]5,783,260[/TD] [TD=width: 105, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]9,826,453[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent]18,931,726[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]48,344,477[/TD] [/TR] [TR=bgcolor: transparent] [TD=width: 85, bgcolor: transparent]West Ham[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]13,803,038[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]7,697,488[/TD] [TD=width: 105, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]8,314,691[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent]18,931,726[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]48,746,943[/TD] [/TR] [TR=bgcolor: transparent] [TD=width: 85, bgcolor: transparent]Wigan Ath[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]13,803,038[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]5,783,260[/TD] [TD=width: 105, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]2,267,643[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent]18,931,726[/TD] [TD=width: 90, bgcolor: transparent, align: center]40,785,667[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Full breakdown: http://www.premierleague.com/content/dam/premierleague/site-content/News/publications/other/Season-201213-TV-Broadcasting-distribution.pdf
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http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/colchester-beckons-as-pompey-pre-season-takes-a-different-route-1-5109412
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Glasgow Saint will know.
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Yep. Surprised this post went largely unnoticed on the original 'Cortese considering his position' thread: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?p=1691502#post1691502
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We're a 'work in progress' whereas West Ham are a finished article, ergo we will finish above West Ham next season. IMHO of course.
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Found this picture on Twitter. Emotion in the players' faces is palpable.
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Can Someone Explain The Financial Fair Play Rules - And How It Impacts Us
trousers replied to Gemmel's topic in The Saints
Can an owner 'sponsor' something at their own club to offset wages? For example, could Katherina Liebherr sponsor one of the urinals in the gents under the chapel stand for £30m? -
'Twas Umbro...
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Zut alors!
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Neil Allen @pn_neil_allen Signing number 11 this summer! S****horpe left-winger Andy Barcham has joined #Pompey on a free transfer. More at http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/
