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  1. Because, the theory is that a West Ham fan set up the Twitter account pretending to be a Doncaster fan. Someone posted that they noticed the account had been set up yesterday evening....and deleted straight after....adds up....
  2. I'm liking the name of one of Keith Gregory's dissolved companies.... http://companycheck.co.uk/company/05001468
  3. Don't recall seeing this article posted before. Gives an insight into a couple of the small businesses still owed money by Pompey... http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-2099855/Grudge-match-soccer-rule-favours-clubs-players-creditors.html Grudge match over soccer rule that favours clubs and players over other creditors By Dan Atkinson Last updated at 9:24 AM on 12th February 2012 The taxman suffered a humiliating defeat last week when Tottenham manager (and next England boss?) Harry Redknapp was found not guilty of tax evasion. But still smarting from its 1-0 trouncing at Southwark Crown Court, Revenue & Customs is hoping for a better result as early as this week in the High Court in a quite separate grudge match with the Football League. At stake are tens of millions of pounds in taxes that the Revenue claims it loses from football clubs that go bust, while players and other football clubs are given priority. Losing out: Builder Terry Clark is owed £55,000 by Portsmouth FC The system gives protection to some creditors in a way that is unique to football – and the losers over the years have included dozens of small businesses that have lost thousands of pounds. The Revenue’s lawyer has dubbed it ‘the ugly side of the beautiful game’. But the Football League’s supporters insist that it is essential to protect the sport from financial crises and foster a ‘rescue culture’. Clubs have this special bankruptcy status under the ‘football creditor’ rule, established by the Football League nine years ago. Under the rule, clubs that fail to keep paying players or honour debts to other clubs cannot stay in the League. Any club that is ejected from the League is doomed as a business. The effect is that an administrator – who is legally bound to maintain an insolvent company as a ‘going concern’ – has no choice but to honour the football creditor rule and pay players and other clubs before all other creditors. That includes small traders and suppliers – and the taxman. The issue may seem like a fine point with all the relevance for everyday life of the offside rule, were it not for the fact that since 1992 half of all the clubs in the Football League have been in administration. Casualties have included Leeds United, Derby County, Exeter City, Crystal Palace, Wrexham and Premier League Portsmouth. Since it was introduced in 2002, the football creditor rule has cost taxpayers tens of millions. Bankrupt: Derby County football club The Revenue launched its case in November. Its QC, Gregory Mitchell, has argued that the rule awarded some football creditors a unique and preferential status in insolvency law – a status that could only be legitimately granted by Parliament. Not surprisingly, the Revenue is keen to stress that it is championing the cause of all non-football creditors, not just the taxman. ‘We are talking about people who have worked for the club and are left with very little because the football creditors get preferential treatment,’ said a Revenue source. ‘We can be talking about gardeners, florists and carpenters – these guys do not get paid. We don’t think it’s fair, we don’t think it’s right and we don’t think it’s lawful.’ Aggrieved small businesses are not hard to find. The case of Portsmouth FC, which went into administration in February 2010, became a cause celebre for opponents of the scheme.The victims are still angry. ‘It cannot be right,’ said Terry Clark, managing director of TWC Joinery and Shopfitting of Portsmouth. His firm worked extensively for the football club, fitting out offices and refitting the dressing room. When Pompey went into administration, Clark’s company was owed nearly £55,000. The administrators were finally able to recover just 20 per cent of the debt to small creditors, meaning that he will get less than £12,000 of what he is owed. The same applies to the Revenue, which was owed £37million by Portsmouth. Thanks in part to the football creditor rule, almost £30 million of that will not be paid. Clark said: ‘Why should the League clubs get away with it? I feel sorry for other local traders. Take the paper shop – it may be owed only £100, but that is a lot to them.’ Another Portsmouth creditor is Andrew Warshaw, a freelance sports writer, who is owed a four-figure sum for articles written for the club’s match programmes. ‘It does seem to me that the system draws a distinction between the haves and have-nots,’ he said. A repeated cause of embarrassment for the League has been debts owed to the St John Ambulance service, whose workers provide medical cover at matches. To lance this boil, the League has made a £40,000 payment covering all such debts to date. The rule was designed to protect players’ earnings. Its defenders point out that while Premier League players are paid millions, players in teams lower down the leagues are not so well remunerated and a typical annual salary for a League player is still about £50,000. It was designed also, says the League, to protect other clubs from being hit. A single club becoming insolvent would create a domino effect among clubs. One League source said: ‘This is about encouraging in football the sort of rescue culture that everyone is so keen to see in all other businesses.’ The alternative would be to push insolvent clubs into liquidation. The clubs could not be allowed to stay in the League, having defaulted on debts such as transfer fees, and this, says the League, would be needlessly destructive. Mr Justice Richards, who has been hearing the evidence, is now considering his verdict in the civil case and is expected to rule within days. The League and its supporters will be hoping they are allowed to keep the rule. Without it, they argue, more clubs would be forced into liquidation and expelled from the League. The sport could be devastated. Critics argue that, in a time when small businesses are being squeezed by the downturn and the Treasury is trying to repay Britain’s giant national debt, it’s time to show the football creditors rule the red card.
  4. http://companycheck.co.uk/company/05274431 [TABLE] [TR] [TD]Cash at Bank : £10,347 [/TD] [TD=width: 1][/TD] [TD=width: 453] Net Worth : £78,992[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Don't spend it all at once.....
  5. http://www.iifaltd.com/stubbington_financial_adviser.html
  6. This has got "Pinnacle" and "Fialka" written all over it....
  7. Mr Andronikou said: ‘We are looking to take over the club as soon as possible and drive home the sale. It is far more attractive in administration than as a going concern.’ That just about sums up the whole sordid affair...
  8. Nice one :-)
  9. So, give them the "easy" part now (i.e. the statutory 10 points for giving notice that they intend going into administration) and add any bolt-on deductions afterwards. Or is that too simple for the Football League?
  10. Can someone explain why they haven't received a points penalty yet? They gave notice that they are seeking administration. According to the Football League's rules its the "giving notice" that triggers the points penalty. What's occurring?
  11. You gotta give AA credit though. It certainly knows how to play the system.
  12. @pn_neil_allen: Norris & Varney out for Barnsley. Now Halford & Lawrence injured. That's 15 fit #Pompey players inc Webster & Kanu. How is that competitive?
  13. Noble was the best player on the pitch IMO. Saints MotM for me was Morgan. He doesn't do anything that is headline grabbing but he's what makes us tick. But...we need to start with Puncheon or Chaplow to play alongside him. It's all very well spraying the passes out but we need someone like Puncheon or Chaplow to take the pass and drive forward. Cork doesn't offer that option which is why our central midfield tends to go sideways or backwards half the time. Anyway, that aside, it's still Morgan for me - he was our fulcrum last night.
  14. @jordansibley: Disappointed @Moose_talkSPORT has fallen for Big Sam's line of @billysharp10 pushed in chest. Hand in face on replay-> http://t.co/Y6HfRBwr
  15. Ian Abrahams @Moose_talkSPORT Re Matty Taylor's sending off - he did push Sharp but he conned the ref by holding his head when he was shoved in the chest - not nice billy sharp @billysharp10 Gutted I missed the easy chance shud of won it for us.never a pen never touched him.big @joshooiveld20 got me out the crap. #wontsleep2nite Ian Abrahams @Moose_talkSPORT @billysharp10 what about you getting a fellow pro sent off? Ian Abrahams @Moose_talkSPORT Matty shouldnt have raised his hands but Sharp's reaction was a disgrace Ian Abrahams @Moose_talkSPORT @billysharp10 why did you roll around holding your head when Taylor shoved you in the chest? Ian Abrahams @Moose_talkSPORT I believe @billysharp10 bought the game into disripute lets see if he answers my tweets? Ian Abrahams @Moose_talkSPORT I'll debate this more tomorrow - goodnight
  16. Alladice played for the 1-0 after they scored and went down to 10 men. It was therefore harder to penetrate their defensive play despite them only having 10 men. If they'd had 11 men for the full 90 mins then we'd have probably had more space in the last third (as counter-intuitive as that sounds)
  17. P.s. How the **** did Sharp miss from 3 yards in the first half?!
  18. On the train home. Great game. Draw was a fair result. Disappointed with the quality of our final ball most of the time but content overall. Would have started with Puncheon over Guly.
  19. trousers

    BT

    Put yourself into administration and agree a 20p in the pound CVA with your creditors. Of course, before doing this, make sure you get a mate to loan you £17m quid first so that they automatically become the largest creditor. They can then choose the adminsitrator. And, then, when 2 years is up and the first CVA payment is due, go into administration all over again thus diluting your debt to BT even further. HTH
  20. trousers

    BT

    I'm ashamed to say I just laughed out loud :-)
  21. Tell the dealer you'll think about it but in the meantime you'll start posting about your experience on various industry and social networks. How about starting on here....What's the name of the company?
  22. Isn't the difference there that HMRC are the biggest creditor whereas with Pompey they're not? Therefore, HMRC are in pole position to call the shots. Rangers should have learnt from Pompey in that before you get into financial trouble you load a significant debt on the company so that when the fateful day comes you've always got a larger creditor than HMRC. Allegedly.
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