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1125: Prime Minister David Cameron We needed a fight back and a fight back is under way. 1125: Prime Minister David Cameron says police told him at the Cobra meeting that they had the resources they need. 1119: Prime Minister David Cameron On police funding: We won't do anything that will reduce the amount of visible policing on our streets. 1117: Prime Minister David Cameron There is evidence that a more robust approach to policing in London resulted in a quieter night in the capital. 1115: Prime Minister David Cameron There are more police, more people being arrested, more people being charged and prosecuted. 1114: Breaking News Prime Minister David Cameron Nothing is off the table. There are contingency plans for water cannon to be used at 24 hours notice. 1111: PM David Cameron, in statement in Downing Street, pays tribute to police and emergency services. "Picture by picture" these criminals are being arrested, and they will not let "phoney" concerns about publishing CCTV images breaching human rights get in the way, he says http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14449675

Lots of people (politicians, media, football forum contributors, etc) are now rightly entering root cause analysis mode... Does all this mean I no longer need to feel guilty about the discipline and punishments (within legal parameters) that I've exercised at home with my two children over the last 15 years? I'm off to bolt all the open stable doors up and down the length of the country. I may be some time....

According to this report: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14470017 at least one of our prisons is "demeaning, unsafe and fell below what could be classed as decent" so that's not really an option.....

I would imagine BHA is somewhat disappointed with the miserably low number of bites on his post above. Come on guys, let's have some more reaction, especially given the intellectual effort that he put into the quip in the first place.

Good to see 'The Big Society' principles in action ;-)

Maybe it's more efficient to target a few ring leaders or main protagonists than go for the broad brush approach of putting up hundreds or thousands of faces? The 'less is more' philosophy. Who knows.

I'd rather you put something else in my mouth rather than words

I predict a riot....sorry....a rout. 6-0 to Saints

I would venture that you could establish a fairly substantial monkey chicken petting zoo for this level of investment

I don't doubt that's fundamentally true. I've not known (m)any senior management of any large organisation have a clue how to run things on the shop floor. But, are you saying that the 'shop floor' officers knew, say, yesterday morning how many rioters there would be on the streets of London later that evening? My understanding (which could be wrong) is that there was no significant pre-warning of how large the problem was going to get. How did the cops on the ground know with such accuracy how many cops the management should have been recalling from holiday and redeploying from other assignments so far in advance?

And if they had been sent in large numbers they would have been accused of over reacting.... Damned if they do, damned if they don't Just an opinion mind you.

Sigh

Indeed. The police are damned if they do, damned if they don't.

Likewise. I'm actually quite looking forward to a beer now! Just hope the riots start on time.... ;-)

Sounds like a plan! http://www.lbc.co.uk/new-reports-of-disturbances-around-london-43379 Shops in Westfield, Bromley, Balham, East Ham, Hackney, Farringdon, Kingston, Wimbledon, Clapham Common, Ealing and Wandsworth are believed to be closing early as London prepares for a fourth night of violence. The Southside Shopping Centre in Wandsworth and Centre Court Shopping Centre in Wimbledon have already shut.

Waterloo to Farnborough. We don't stop at Wimbledon but wouldn't surprise me if they shut down the line in the advent of any unrest in the centre of Wimbledon

1400: Deputy Assistant Commissioner Stephen Kavanagh says plastic bullets - never used before during British disturbances - have been considered as "one of the tactics" available to officers at the riots. "That's a tactic that will be used by the Metropolitan Police if deemed necessary," he says.

Nowhere near the railway station I hope? Need to go through there later.

Some drunken teenage girls' insightful views on the matter: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14458424 "Everyone was breaking into stuff.....it was good though.....it was good fun.....yeah, we're drinking at 9 in the morning, yeah, free alcohol.....like, it's the government's fault....yeah, conservatives....whatever who it is, I dunno....just showing the police we can do what we want.....yeah, definitely hoping it will go on again tonight, definitely....it's the rich people, the people that have got businesses and that's why this has happened, because of the rich people....so we're just showing the rich people we can do what we want" Three words spring to mind: Education, education, education Sigh

The pride I feel in my fellow countrymen is unbounded.

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?24457-Markus-Liebherr-RIP.-All-tributes-here-please. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/markus-liebherr-entrepreneur-who-saved-southampton-fc-2063201.html Tomorrow (10th August) marks the 1st anniversary of the untimely death of Markus Liebherr. I was on holiday in Wales at the time and still clearly remember how stunned I was on hearing the news. RIP Markus. You'll be in my thoughts tomorrow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicola_Cortese Nice. (p.s. it was Nicola's birthday on Monday I notice. A belated "Happy Birthday" sir) :-)

If Cortese keeps up this excellent chairmanship he'll start attracting the attention of the likes of AC Milan.....

My pleasure sir. We aim to please :-) Btw, I'm still not best pleased that you've got a bigger c o c k than me (as your avatar)

So, if you're not his dad (or closely connected to him), where did you get your "inside information" from last year.....? Not a fan of Mr Cortese then....? ;-)