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Not forgetting the fake company NAMG that was, allegedly, used to somehow hoodwink the board that a bid for the club was on the table. I never did understand that one...

I believe he's simply saying that had all the candidates been voted for by the members in a FPTP vote then Cameron would still have won. The whittling down process amongst the MPs simply delayed the inevitable result. I think.

Will do. Will he know who 'Viking Warrior' is in real life?

This is true. So, to recap, we can be 100% confident that Allen's plane being here that week was simply a coincidence?

Made me chuckle :-)

It's a reasonable hypothesis but how can we be absolutely sure of that? How do we know it won't actually galvanise the support of minority parties in the knowledge that their vote is no longer wasted? (I'm talking about true PR here, not it's miserable little compromise) Are there any stats we can unpick from other countries who have moved from one system to another?

It's about time the club published a seat-by-seat plan so people can book aisle seats online, much like you can at most theatres/cinemas. Ok, I know SMS is on a larger scale but there is precise seat booking software out there that would do the job. That is all.

I hate to burst bubbles (or any other dead pop star's monkey for that matter) but i can't see anything other than a Huddersfield win at the weekend.

Would the same apply for a truely proportional system such as PR? (which AV is apparently just a stepping stone towards....) Wouldn't true PR actually encourage more people to vote for these 'vulgar' minority in the knowledge that every vote truely counts? (I'm not necessarily saying that's a bad thing, just highlighting what I perceive to be an apparent dichotomy between AV ("keeps nasty minority parties at bay") and PR ("allows every vote for nasty minority parties to count")

Fret ye not. Verbs has already assured us the British electorate aren't thick... ;-)

And pure coincidence that his private 737 flew over the same week the story broke? (sorry to bang on about his pigging aeroplane...)

I'm seeing him on Friday. Any messages?

Because the 'yes' campaign are trying to be as cunning as the 'no' campaign...?

A comparable analogy with a football league table would be to allocate the points scored by the bottom clubs to those who finished at the top based on the preferences of said bottom clubs. Or, another wacky system is you promote the 3 clubs who scored the most points....nah, that would never work... (still a crap analogy on reflection...keep trying Trousers...you'll come up with something bordering on intelligence one of these days....maybe)

Paul Allen's private 737 jet landed at Heathrow airport two days after that story broke. It landed at 10am on the 29th and departed later that afternoon. Make of that what you will...

Btw...I assume the AV extollers amongst us are also fans of the football league's playoff system...? (I'm yet to work out quite how bad that analogy is so bear with me)

Ditto!

Fair points

Ryandickson5: Gym done now watching bartos bialkoskis friends clean my car then off 4 a food shop for tonights tea!

Fair enough, although that's an example at one end of an extreme. What about something less 'controversial' (on paper).... For example....if I was an impersonator of American presidents past and present, I'm sure I wouldn't cause offence with my "George Bush is an idiot" act, but would I fall foul of the racist police if I made myself look like Obama?

Huddersfield will beat Brighton Saints will draw at Brentford And, no, I don't have any finger nails left....

Or....they've considered it and feel that that abstaining is a valid stance? (as you say, we'll never really know)

No. I was careful to word it "not unhappy enough" rather than "happy with" as, I agree, 'apathy' does not equal 'happy with'.

Indeed. So, if someone changes their appearance in order to look like another person with different facial features, I agree, that's called "impersonation". But how does that then become "racist"? Is it what you then do or say when 'in character', or are we saying that it's inherently "racist" to make yourself look like some members of the human race but not others?