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Count me in if we're now (somewhat conveniently for the sake of the argument) labelling it as "a pretty good achievement"... that's a bit of a downgrade on those that have previously held it up as some kind of epiphanistic achievement (the club's social media team at the time, for starters). The bottom line is that we didn't gain any ground on our promotion rivals as a result of it. But, yes, I'll go with "pretty good", on that we can agree

It is possible to hold multiple feelings and opinions at the same time.... they aren't mutually exclusive... for example: - Praise Martin for having a successful season at Championship level - Be critical of some aspects of that season, despite the success - Having a superb day out at Wembley - Predict pre-season that we're likely to go straight back down again - Not foresee that we would go back down without a fight - Criticise Martin for his stubborness and/or inability to adapt to the challenges of the Premier League - Dislike a manager's character, despite getting us promoted and giving us a memorable day at Wembley In other words, there's nothing "bizarre" or contradictory about disliking Martin and enjoying last season...

I suspect he was talking in comparison to the teams around us that didn't go on a miracle unbeaten run... but you probably knew that....

Every time the 'Defend Martin no matter what' brigade trot out the "yeah, but the unbeaten run, innit" shibboleth a small furry mammal cops it in the Trousers household

House!

Pritti Patel's voice. Stop dropping your Gs, FFS.

I heard he used to make his own gin. Does Still still distill?

Every appointment has a risk element to be fair. Some are riskier than others, granted.

Anyone seen any recent comments on Still from Lens fans? Given how accurate the feedback from Swansea fans on Martin were, it would be interesting/revealing to hear from the Lens fan base

If Rusk goes ultra safe again I fear for the safety of my cat... Just go for it FFS...

If I remember correctly, that was more to do with the way the outgoing manager was treated rather than a critique of the incoming manager (?)

I may have missed it but I'm not seeing any "animosity" towards Still. I've seen people who aren't convinced he's the best option, but it's understandable and reasonable to be uncertain about any managerial appointment, and Still isn't immune to that.

The word "almost" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there, given both those teams have got double our points total (thereabouts)....

# interesting 3rd post klaxon #

Even when we'll have championship superstar Adam Armstrong back in the fold...?

That would involve a player putting in some effort though... Not gonna happen...

Careful what you wish for...

This. Crazy we took so long to ring the changes today.

We almost scored!!!

Lol at the commentator suggesting 2-0 is a "dangerous lead"... Has he forgotten who they're playing against...?!

I've just checked the script and, yes, Alcaraz does end up scoring for them (on 78 minutes to be precise)

We did a shot!!!

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