Matthew Le God

Explain then. Plus... So now you can answer my question. Do you not think it supports genocide? Slavery? Sexism? Homophobia?

First line of the Bible... 'In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.' That is everything. So where is the flaw? So now you can answer my question. Do you not think it supports genocide? Slavery? Sexism? Homophobia?

So now you can answer my question. Do you not think it supports genocide? Slavery? Sexism? Homophobia?

The Bible claims... - God created the universe - God created humans - God is all knowing So follow that through and god created the conditions for the universe and humans whereby he knew that if he created things as he did then toasters would be invented. The creator of the universe is therefore by definition the creator of the toaster. The reality however is, there is no evidence god created the universe... there is very good evidence humans created the toaster. There is a difference.

Yes, I quoted that question and answered that as well. So now you can answer my question. Do you not think it supports genocide? Slavery? Sexism? Homophobia?

I did answer your question. I quoted the first line of the Bible.

As I've already said, it is unlikely to reach that point as they aren't brainwashed with irrationality at a church as a child. If they did decide to believe things without sufficient evidence later in life I'd talk it through with them to see how they reached those conclusions.

Yet again... you don't answer the question.... Do you not think it supports genocide? Slavery? Sexism? Homophobia? First line of the Bible... 'In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.' That is everything. The holy books say he created the universe and thus everything from that point is his creation.

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No I didn't. I summarised the first page, I did not quote it. Do you not think it supports genocide? Slavery? Sexism? Homophobia? It clearly does all of those. The god of the Bible is a horrific character, thankfully a work of fiction.

Morgan Freeman on a cloud >>>> Genocide, slavery, sexist, homophobic 'kind and loving' God of the Bible

I think you should look a little closer to home for that. The Bible supports genocide, sexism, homophobia and slavery. It is a horrific book with god being the worst fictional creation of all time. He kills far more people that the devil in the Bible.

A lot of the time when people pray they are harming themselves as they don't seek real answers or make real actions if they think god will solve things, this can impact on others in wider society and in the cases where there is little or no impact on individuals or wider society... so what? I haven't claimed prayer is 100% negative all the time.

This is a complete red herring as an argument and fundamentally flawed. They may be great thinkers, but to believe in a god given the lack of evidence is not being rational. So in this aspect of their lives they aren't being rational. The rational thing to do is withhold beleif until evidence supports it. That is how science works, so if a scientist is religious then they are not using the rational scientific method when applied to that part of their life.

They may be rational when working as doctors and petrochemical engineers but they are not applying the same level of rationality when it comes to god. There is not sufficient evidence to believe in any god. The level of evidence they are using to believe in the Christian god is so low if used consistently then they would have to believe in every other god claim from the thousands of other gods.

There is plenty of contemporary evidence for Caesar's existence. None for Jesus. The only evidence for Jesus is books written decades after he was supposed to live by unknown authors. That is terrible evidence!

You say 'many'... but really? The holy books of Christianity, Judaism and Islam all say god is the creator of everything!

I don't think there is sufficient evidence to believe in a god... so obviously no I don't think he created those things.

Page 1 of the Bible... God created everything Are you saying Christians and Jews don't believe page 1? Where are these none Bible believing Christians? The Bible is the foundation of the religions, without it we wouldn't know about the myths. No mention of Jesus outside the Bible from any contemporary source.

Geopolitics is heavily influenced by religion!

Not merely 'my own views'! You'll find it hard to find many Chrisitans, Jews or Muslims that don't think god created everything! The holy books of all three state god created everything!

Why do you think I've said all prayer is harmful? Do you think god created everything? Do you think he created the virus? For what 'good' reason would he create a universe where such viruses exist? The Bible outlines god as a mass murderer... so at least creating a deadly virus fits his profile!

Lets combine the two...!

Is your god tolerant? If you think he is... why is he a mass murderer in the Bible? He wipes out huge numbers of people in the flood and many other examples throughout the horrific book.

Hard to see how someone with a rational upbringing from birth would suddenly switch to believing things with no evidence. Which of the thousands of man made gods are you saying they will follow? If they reduce the level of evidence they are willing to accept for one god, the same low level of evidence applies to all the other man made gods.