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If they sell players, they should be forced to use their youth team players and not just bring in experienced players on lower wages than those that left. This really should have been enforced from day one by the Football League rather than this one in, one out policy.
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Why is it being on TV relevant? The only real difference from any other game is you have a cameraman on the touchline. The Forest game last Saturday was live on TV around the world, Saints won that.
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Lampitt, Appleton and AA all seem to think they can sell players/assets. Even if they can, it will be the buying club in the strong negotiating position and rock bottom prices.
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[noparse]enquiries@football-league.co.uk[/noparse]
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If he is "not going nowhere", then he is going somewhere! Double negative.
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Updated : Tadanari Lee Set to Sign
Matthew Le God replied to Matthew Le Tissier's topic in The Saints
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Man Utd fans have more bottle than Pompey fans? Pompey fans think the club will continue to get away with it so no need for a protest club? Who knows...?
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An AFC Portsmouth would possibly start in a higher league than AFC Wimbledon did. AFC Portsmouth would be a replacement club for a defunct club where as AFC Wimbledon were a protest club and the original (if you can call MK Dons that) still exists. When Saints were on the brink didn't fans groups have constructive and positive talks with the Blue Square Premier/North/South about joining at that level? I think the Pompey trust may have done the same.
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Yep, the whole thread/saga is a little reminiscent of this... or this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIlKiRPSNGA
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Can you post a screenshot of it?
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Someone needs to let Pompey Online know that Southampton Leisure Holdings was set up 7 years before the Football League wrote their rules on points penalties and insolvency events. Their argument that SLH was set up to avoid a points penalty is nonsense, unless Rupert Lowe was able to predict rules written 7 years into the future.
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If Saints win their next two games (both are at St Mary's) they will be... - Top (unless a goal swing occurs) or even 3 points above West Ham if they lose away to Ipswich. - Definitely 7 points above Cardiff - At the very least 8 points above Middlesbrough, possibly 11 ahead.
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It is about this... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?35291-The-Football-League-owe-Southampton-and-Cortese-some-answers! Which a mod moved into the Pompey Takeover Saga a few pages back. I haven't actually posted it on Pompey online, I'm not a member so can't even read what they have said about it. Can anyone summarise for me?
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I've won an award! \0/ *crys* "I'd like to dedicate this award to Vladimir Antonov, Sulaiman Al-Fahim,Peter Storrie, Daniel Azougy, Ali Al Faraj, David Lampitt, Steve Cotterill, Milan Mandaric, Harry Redknapp, Avram Grant, Chris Akers, Tanya Robbins, Michael Appleton, Balram Chairai, Roman Dubov, Andrew Andronikou, Sasha Gaydamak and Arcadi Gaydamak. Without their hard work and dedication none of this would have been possible." *stops crying and starts laughing*
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I'd imagine selling assets whilst takeover negotiations are drawing to a close is frowned on in business circles.
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The Championship table if Pompey were liquidated... 1 Southampton Played 25 Points 49 2 Cardiff Played 25 Points 45 ......................................... 3 West Ham Played 24 Points 44 4 Middlesbrough Played 25 Points 44 5 Reading Played 25 Points 42 6 Birmingham Played 24 Points 40 ......................................... 7 Blackpool Played 25 Points 39 8 Burnley Played 25 Points 39 9 Hull Played 25 Points 39 10 Derby Played 25 Points 37 11 Leeds Played 25 Points 36 12 Crystal Palace Played 25 Points 36 Would become a 44 game season.
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The Championship table if Pompey were liquidated... 1 Southampton Played 25 Points 49 2 Cardiff Played 25 Points 45 ......................................... 3 West Ham Played 24 Points 44 4 Middlesbrough Played 25 Points 44 5 Reading Played 25 Points 42 6 Birmingham Played 24 Points 40 ......................................... 7 Blackpool Played 25 Points 39 8 Burnley Played 25 Points 39 9 Hull Played 25 Points 39 10 Derby Played 25 Points 37 11 Leeds Played 25 Points 36 12 Crystal Palace Played 25 Points 36 Would become a 44 game season.
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That bid was made before the Cala takeover collapsed today. Things may be different now perhaps?
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We are still waiting!
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Why would they bid when they could just wait until Pompey disappear and all their players are released and can be signed for nothing?
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The Football League owe Southampton and Cortese some answers!
Matthew Le God replied to Matthew Le God's topic in The Saints
That argument Pompey have been using doesn't stack up, Southampton Leisure Holdings did have non football related companies. CSI's main non football related company has lost the rights to the World Rally Championship. With that gone North One is worthless, yet CSI still remains in admin. What is keeping it there if Pompey are solvent? -
I seem to recall the last time Pompey went into admin in 2010, Southampton chairman Nicola Cortese said he would take issue if they didn't get a points deduction when Southampton did. What about this time? i) 2nd April 2009 Southampton FC's parent company Southampton Leisure Holdings enters administration. Mark Fry, Southampton Leisure Holdings Administrator "I'm not administrator of the football club, I'm administrator of the holding company". "Distinct separate legal entities". Sound familiar? Similar to what the CSI administrator's have been saying. Accountancy firm sent into the club. 21 days later... Football League announce 10 points deducted ii) 29th November 2011 Portsmouth FC's parent company CSI enter administration. Accountancy firm sent into the club. 52 days later... Nothing! (yet) ................................................. Exhibit A "Akers told the Guardian that Antonov has invested around £10.5m into Portsmouth to pay for transfer fees and underwrite players' wages since CSI bought the club." http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/29/portsmouth-parent-company-administration So the club was given £10.5m which it then spent on improving the squad in the summer of 2011 buying Varney, Huseklupp, Norris, Pearce etc. CEO David Lampitt even boasted on the Pompey website that they had been the Championship's "second highest net spenders in the summer". The administrator now admits the club doesn't have funding for the rest of the season. It was clearly dependant on more external money being put into it in order to pay wages and debts for the rest of the season. "Inextricably linked"? Exhibit B 30th November 2011- CSI Administrator Andrew Andronikou - "I can't see how the club can be deducted points." http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15963854.stm Exhibit C 17th December 2011 -CSI Administrator Andrew Andronikou - "Hopefully, next week we will have sold one of the companies owned by CSI to allow us to invest some capital into the club." http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Portsmouth-face-administration-and-points-deduction-again-article844184.html Why does the club need money from another of CSI's businesses? Does that not make CSI and Portsmouth FC "inextricably linked"? Exhibit D 19th January 2012 - Joseph Cala former prospective owner who would have seen the books - “Portsmouth have eight players who earn £1.1 million a month between them. That is in a league with an average budget of £8 million a year,” he said. “Without these eight players the club is healthy, in fact it would be profitable." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/portsmouth/9021385/Joseph-Cala-the-Man-from-Atlantis-confident-of-Portsmouth-deal.html If what he says is true, then the club isn't healthy and isn't profitable and is reliant on external cash to keep going. Exhibit E Those connected at Portsmouth have attempted to make out the situations are different. Both Southampton Leisure holdings and CSI had other none football related businesses. The other main CSI company was North One which has now lost the World Rally rights.... http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/North-One-Sport-loses-WRC-commercial-rights,35337.html Why are no journalists questioning this? If not national ones, then at least the Daily Echo or BBC Radio Solent should dig into it.
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I seem to recall the last time Pompey went into admin in 2010, Southampton chairman Nicola Cortese said he would take issue if they didn't get a points deduction when Southampton did. What about this time? i) 2nd April 2009 Southampton FC's parent company Southampton Leisure Holdings enters administration. Mark Fry, Southampton Leisure Holdings Administrator "I'm not administrator of the football club, I'm administrator of the holding company". "Distinct separate legal entities". Sound familiar? Similar to what the CSI administrator's have been saying. Accountancy firm sent into the club. 21 days later... Football League announce 10 points deducted ii) 29th November 2011 Portsmouth FC's parent company CSI enter administration. Accountancy firm sent into the club. 52 days later... Nothing! (yet) ................................................. Exhibit A "Akers told the Guardian that Antonov has invested around £10.5m into Portsmouth to pay for transfer fees and underwrite players' wages since CSI bought the club." http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/29/portsmouth-parent-company-administration So the club was given £10.5m which it then spent on improving the squad in the summer of 2011 buying Varney, Huseklupp, Norris, Pearce etc. CEO David Lampitt even boasted on the Pompey website that they had been the Championship's "second highest net spenders in the summer". The administrator now admits the club doesn't have funding for the rest of the season. It was clearly dependant on more external money being put into it in order to pay wages and debts for the rest of the season. "Inextricably linked"? Exhibit B 30th November 2011- CSI Administrator Andrew Andronikou - "I can't see how the club can be deducted points." http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15963854.stm Exhibit C 17th December 2011 -CSI Administrator Andrew Andronikou - "Hopefully, next week we will have sold one of the companies owned by CSI to allow us to invest some capital into the club." http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Portsmouth-face-administration-and-points-deduction-again-article844184.html Why does the club need money from another of CSI's businesses? Does that not make CSI and Portsmouth FC "inextricably linked"? Exhibit D 19th January 2012 - Joseph Cala former prospective owner who would have seen the books - “Portsmouth have eight players who earn £1.1 million a month between them. That is in a league with an average budget of £8 million a year,” he said. “Without these eight players the club is healthy, in fact it would be profitable." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/portsmouth/9021385/Joseph-Cala-the-Man-from-Atlantis-confident-of-Portsmouth-deal.html If what he says is true, then the club isn't healthy and isn't profitable and is reliant on external cash to keep going. Exhibit E Those connected at Portsmouth have attempted to make out the situations are different. Both Southampton Leisure holdings and CSI had other none football related businesses. The other main CSI company was North One which has now lost the World Rally rights.... http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/North-One-Sport-loses-WRC-commercial-rights,35337.html Why are no journalists questioning this? If not national ones, then at least the Daily Echo or BBC Radio Solent should dig into it.
