VectisSaint

Agreed about thickos, but not sure about KL's wealth. Markus was oft quoted as being worth about 4bill when he bought us out 5 years ago. I can't recall or find out if she was an only child but if she is then I imagine she inherited the vast majority of the Estate (my understanding is that death duties in Switzerland are quite low, one of the main reasons Hans moved there from Germany to avoid the high death duties in his homeland). Also with MALI being wound up I suspect the assets of the various parts of the group may have increased her wealth.

Southampton is nothing to do with the Liebherr Group. Nothing, please try to understand something very simple. Markus was nothing to do with the Liebherr Group, he sold his shares many years ago, Katherina is his daughter and inherited his wealth after his unfortunate and untimely death. Other than a family relationship, she has no other financial or business connection to the Liebherr Group. Along with his brother Hubert, Markus struck out on his own after the death of his father Hans even though he initially inherited a share of the Liebherr business that had been built up by Hans. Its all out there on the interweb thingy if you could only tear yourself away from this forum for a few minutes (or better still a few days) you could actually learn something if you bothered to try and find out and stop posting your nonsense and polluting this forum. But there, why shoud you know any of this, you being an Everton supporter or Skate or whatever it is you actually are.

Do you recall a boy there, looked about 10, and acted the same, probably a year or so ago?

Rhyming slang?

Its Cunard, they are bringing their three Queens into Southampton tomorrow to annnounce the deal in spectscular fashion

Well if he's a Manure supporter then he has Rodney as a prime example to back up his assertion. I think actually the improvement shown by Lallana this season over last is immense, no reason to suppose that he cannot go on improving, though maybe the rate of change will slow down over the next couple of years.

Good lad. Time to dig out the old t-shirts.

Then 3 Now 3. No iPhones back then.

Rare start for Dani tonight, Juve stars mostly on the bench rested for their forthcoming WC games, having won the league already. Subbed after 65 minutes at 0-0, Juve take the lead 7 minutes later. Says it all really, he'll be back soon.

Apart from December and January of course, when we were without Boruc, Lovren, Fonte, Schneiderlin, Wanyama, Ramirez, Osvaldo and others for varying amounts of time, strangely coincident with our run of bad form. But for sure its easy to pick our best XI, with only the Clyne/Chambers and Wanyama/Cork decisions really to be made.

You might need to hep them out with a description, he hasn't played a full Serie A game since he joined, 3 starts and 5 subs, no goals, 1 assist and 1 yellow card. At least scored twice in the Europa League, maybe Trabspospor will have been impressed enough to take him off our hands. Seriously doubt he will be selected for Italy, and anyway do we want him to do well, since that would probably mean England losing against his side. 3 more years on his contract, think we have been shafted.

No, AFC Wimbledon are members of the Football League. Sunderland are members of the Premier League. Different organisations, different rules. Also different "crime", one was simply that an international clearance for a loan returnee had not been obtained. Most interesting thing here, if there is anything interesting at all, is that it was Saints' former secretary who was responsible as she had become secretary at Sunderland. Cardiff and Fulham at least are now so far behind Sunderland that a points deduction would not help them anyway.

Come on Saints, 3 points today nice way to celebrate what would have been Ted's 96th birthday.

That's 4 as a direct result of this thread. There are others, me included, who have previously cancelled their subscription as a direct result of the lack of moderation and control of these irritating trolls, but still read between the ignores and occasionally post (thats one of my 3 posts gone which is a shame on an away match day)

Aliens

4 posts already on this thread since this enlightening post earlier.

For the position he plays in the team there is not much to criticise with his goals and assists. This season he has 8 (goals and assists). This is the same number (of goals and asissts) as Frank Lampard, Jack Wilshere, Fernandinho, Skrtel and Schurle. Reasonably good company (OK less goals than all of these but more assists). Our nextbest is Gaston (4) and Clyne (4). Cork and Wanyama between them muster 1 (assist), even Boruc is credited with 1 assist. Yet often Davis is playing in a more defensive position than either Jack or Vic when he is covering for Clyne or Chambers bombing forward. I'm not sure what some people expect in terms of goals and assists. I'd like to see him score more for sure, and I must admit he should have scored on Saturday, but to dismiss Davis as "not enough goals and assists" suggests a lack of understanding of how the game works and his role in our team. The reality is that 8 is a very good return for the position he plays. He is also a lot more skilled that some give him credit for. If he had been a Saints Academy graduate he would be our team captain. It will be very difficult to find someone to take his place in the team, if we do find someone, e.g. a better Gaston, then we will need Morgan, jack and Vic to make a far greater contribution in the goals and assists stakes. As others have said Davis is also one of the most improved players under MP, his goals/assists stats bear this out, 3 last season, 8 this - 1 assist last season, 6 this.

Hodgson said as much, there will be no surprise inclusions in the squad.

37.93% for Saints 32.92% for Espanyol 34.25% overall. Wrong again.

We have Mods? Wow. Administrator doesn't understand the issue, believes it to be a case of like or dislike and shouldn't be a problem because we are all "grown ups". Unfortunately Steve's post shows how pointless it is hoping that something will be done about these dullards and why this forum will continue to descend to the depths of two or three posters who are not Saints supporters and who are only here for a wind up. Forums are for discussion, for some light-hearted banter and also to exchange information about the subject between supporters of Saints, but there is no point in a discussion with someone who offers no point of view other than to take the contrary standpoint of everyone else (except the other trolls) simply to wind up, who is clearly not a Saints supporter and/or who offers no opinion at all, only posting interminable new questions designed purely to wind everyone up. This place would not be dull without these people, it could actually become an enjoyable experience, sadly the surgery required may be too late as we no longer have many of the posters who actually helped to make this forum interesting. No need to ban the trolls, but they could at least be limited to the Lounge or the non-Saints part of this Forum.

No, Wet Sham have lost more points from a winning position than us so far. Its a daft statistic anyway, in order to lose points from a winning position you have to be winning in the first place. Man City have lost 12 points from winning positions (compared to our 18) and they will most likely win the league. So if we manage to only drop 11 points next season from a winning position will we win the league? Nope. Crystal Palace have only dropped 6 points from a winning position this season, equal best in the league, probably because for most of the season they never took the lead in the first place until Pulis turned them around).

No game time again for Osvaldo tonight. Named on the bench again, but then Serie A allows 11 subs to be named. Can't see how he is going to get selected for Italy at this rate, and how we are going to get much for him especially not from Juve. He will be back in the summer imho, we'll see then what happens.

"Luxury penthouse apartment in Swindon". That's a sentence I never expected to see. Still nice and handy in Gordon Gardens, right opposite Swindon Crown Court.

Dozy Altidore. Makes Ali Dia look like a professional footballer. I hope we never make a mistake like signing Mezut Ozil, that would be awful. Would take him like a shot but perhaps not at 45m. Will be interesting to see what happens with Dani, he will be back in the summer for sure, because I can't see Juve paying (anything) for him. Unless we can find a gullible team in the Turkish league or something then we may have to deal with the situation in a way that we actually see him playing for us next season. We are not exactly overloaded with strikers, and it was obvious that he was just beginning to adapt to the PL during his last few apps. Maybe Ralph can knock some sense into him with a hockey stick or something.

We are Southampton, we don't need to score.