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That was about Rod's less well known brother Ron.

Guess that means that as Serie A has now finished he will be winging his way back to Southampton to meet up with his mates at Marchwood or St Mary's. He should get a warm welcome, from everyone there. Or does it mean he will go away somewhere and have a nice holiday first. Either way, the Club has some work to do now, either getting shot or re-integrating him into the squad.

Last I heard they were Swiss. Hence the huge Swiss flag. So its not just Journos who don't know what they are talking about. They were from Germany originally, but I think KL was born in Switzerland.

Pity they weren't playing in the red and white stripes of Southampton, but well done to Los Rojiblancos.

She could not have sold when Markus died, as she did not own the Club. The trustees and estate Of Markus still owned the Club less than 12 months ago, she has only inherited and become the owner since then, and not sure exactly when it was after that. I don't think she was even the owner at the start of the season, so would not have had that much say in the money that was spent last pre-season (Wanyama, Lovren and Johnny Depp). So I don't go with this notion that she has pumped millions of her own money into the club (as yet). Not saying she would not have been involved in the decisions, but it would not have been her sole decision to have made. In fact I suspect she has not spent much on the club at all since she took sole charge. Therefore have to wait and see what she actually does before passing judgement. Not knocking her and not praising her, will be judged on her actions.

He never got stick from Saints fans, only from ignorant ****s. Great character, much liked by his fellow players and altogether nice bloke who did a lot for us. By the way, looking back the sash kit really was brilliant, I almost think I would prefer to go back to that than to the stripes.

Who are these posters? Or is this another forum legend? Never read anyone claiming this. Whatever happened to the Cult of Cortese? He was spending Markus' money, presumably as agreed with Markus before his untimely death. Once KL finally inherited the company last year (not as many erroneously think immediately after he died) she would have known what he was spending and presumably did not like it too much. But in the end, he was only doing what his friend and business partner wanted him to do. Don't know whether it was good or bad, but so far the current board have not demonstrated any real desire to move forward and neither have they sold any players ot done anything particularly wrong. I would suggest it is the OP who is spouting nonsense, not least an inability to realise that the club was owned by Markus and now by KL, nothing to do with the wider family "the Liebherrs". Once we have some facts and something actually happens then perhaps we can judge.

I thought they included Super Mario, 99% chance of damaging squad harmony, but I guess also high percent chance of contributing to the team as well.

It is correct to say she inherited the club, but it is not correct that she has put tens of millions and was certainly not involved in the rise from L1. When Markus sadly died, she did not immediately take over the reigns, there was a long drawn out process where the club was owned by the Markus Liebherr Estate. It is only relatively recently that she has taken over fully, probably tail end of last year about the time when NC allegedly handed in his notice. That is why he appeared to have free reign on the finances until that time. So in my view KL has not invested any of her money YET. Will she? Hard to say, but the signs are not good that she will invest to the same level that Markus originally envisaged or that NC was doing with the Estate money. She is clearly not looking to sell, otherwise she would already have done so, to NC and his "backers". Whether that is good or bad is open to debate and we will see what happens. She has my support, but only so far in as much as there is no other option, but I'm singularly unimpressed so far by the actions that she and the board have taken so far, which amount to diddly squat.

You and I were discussing this the other day but I ran out of posts. I was checking and I think it was in the Telegraph back in January that quoted that she had inherited Markus' (note, nothing to do with the Liebherr family) 3bn fortune. I don't recall whether it was GBP or CH Farncs (?) or euros or Turkish Lire, but my point is that the 3bn is nothing to do with the family, it was Markus' personal fortune, which is what i thought was quited when he took over and we were being quoted as something like the 4th richest club in England. i don't believe it is populist attribution, i think it is based on real financial data. Whether that fortune increased or decreased following Markus' untimely demise or not I have no idea, and what the result of the winding up of MALI was again i don't know, but pretty sure that she is/was worth something like 3bn somethings The only other reason i can think if she is not is if the fortune was shared with others rather than just to KL, which I guess is perfectly possible.

Bu Buy some English lessons for our supporters I think some people need to understand what the word "bid" means and also understand that in all likelihood no-one has even made a bid as yet for anyone. After Sunday's game I tend to think Shaw may be off and Adz is not. But would be surprised if Shaw goes to Manure after the treatment he (deservedly) dished out to the little **** Janusez (sp). Can't see them being the best of team mates.

Agreed about thickos, but not sure about KL's wealth. Markus was oft quoted as being worth about 4bill when he bought us out 5 years ago. I can't recall or find out if she was an only child but if she is then I imagine she inherited the vast majority of the Estate (my understanding is that death duties in Switzerland are quite low, one of the main reasons Hans moved there from Germany to avoid the high death duties in his homeland). Also with MALI being wound up I suspect the assets of the various parts of the group may have increased her wealth.

Southampton is nothing to do with the Liebherr Group. Nothing, please try to understand something very simple. Markus was nothing to do with the Liebherr Group, he sold his shares many years ago, Katherina is his daughter and inherited his wealth after his unfortunate and untimely death. Other than a family relationship, she has no other financial or business connection to the Liebherr Group. Along with his brother Hubert, Markus struck out on his own after the death of his father Hans even though he initially inherited a share of the Liebherr business that had been built up by Hans. Its all out there on the interweb thingy if you could only tear yourself away from this forum for a few minutes (or better still a few days) you could actually learn something if you bothered to try and find out and stop posting your nonsense and polluting this forum. But there, why shoud you know any of this, you being an Everton supporter or Skate or whatever it is you actually are.

Do you recall a boy there, looked about 10, and acted the same, probably a year or so ago?

Rhyming slang?

Its Cunard, they are bringing their three Queens into Southampton tomorrow to annnounce the deal in spectscular fashion

Well if he's a Manure supporter then he has Rodney as a prime example to back up his assertion. I think actually the improvement shown by Lallana this season over last is immense, no reason to suppose that he cannot go on improving, though maybe the rate of change will slow down over the next couple of years.

Good lad. Time to dig out the old t-shirts.

Then 3 Now 3. No iPhones back then.

Rare start for Dani tonight, Juve stars mostly on the bench rested for their forthcoming WC games, having won the league already. Subbed after 65 minutes at 0-0, Juve take the lead 7 minutes later. Says it all really, he'll be back soon.

Apart from December and January of course, when we were without Boruc, Lovren, Fonte, Schneiderlin, Wanyama, Ramirez, Osvaldo and others for varying amounts of time, strangely coincident with our run of bad form. But for sure its easy to pick our best XI, with only the Clyne/Chambers and Wanyama/Cork decisions really to be made.

You might need to hep them out with a description, he hasn't played a full Serie A game since he joined, 3 starts and 5 subs, no goals, 1 assist and 1 yellow card. At least scored twice in the Europa League, maybe Trabspospor will have been impressed enough to take him off our hands. Seriously doubt he will be selected for Italy, and anyway do we want him to do well, since that would probably mean England losing against his side. 3 more years on his contract, think we have been shafted.

No, AFC Wimbledon are members of the Football League. Sunderland are members of the Premier League. Different organisations, different rules. Also different "crime", one was simply that an international clearance for a loan returnee had not been obtained. Most interesting thing here, if there is anything interesting at all, is that it was Saints' former secretary who was responsible as she had become secretary at Sunderland. Cardiff and Fulham at least are now so far behind Sunderland that a points deduction would not help them anyway.

Come on Saints, 3 points today nice way to celebrate what would have been Ted's 96th birthday.

That's 4 as a direct result of this thread. There are others, me included, who have previously cancelled their subscription as a direct result of the lack of moderation and control of these irritating trolls, but still read between the ignores and occasionally post (thats one of my 3 posts gone which is a shame on an away match day)