The Kraken

I voted for the purple one, it seemed like the most disgusting one of the three (they're all sh*t though, to be fair).

He took this one, Bear.

Benteke has 29 goals in 59 games. That makes £7M a bargain. Bony 11 in 29 so less good, but better than a 1 in 3 ratio so still pretty decent.

Glenn Johnson has done ok this season, and he's playing for a side that look like they could win the league. That said, liverpool's strengths have not really been in defence, and Johnson's best work has (as ever) come when he has been attacking. With England looking likely to be up against it in all group games, having a right back who isn't very good at defending is going to be fun. Kyle Walker has been utterly atrocious this season and taken a real step backwards. If Clyne had kept his place i think he could genuinely have challenged for a spot on the plane, he was definitely in Hodgson's thoughts. But the emergence of Chambers has added a new dimension, and knocked Clyne back in the England reckoning. It's also far too early for Chambers to be getting capped, he's not quite there yet and still got plenty to learn (although hugely impressive so far).

Wouldn't have thought he'll be back, a mistake of a signing, we didn't and don't play with that sort of player. Same reason, to a slightly different extent, that Billy Sharp wouldn't have got a look in.

Agreed, Davis was superb today and has been for a while.

Jack Cork is possibly the most under rated player in he Premier League IMO.

Top work Glesgie

Completely this. Some individuals stood out slightly but overall it was a completely dominant team performance.

All reasonable points and good ideas IMO.

I was thinking around the same. Of course it's all about how you spend and who you bring through; but Spurs got through their Bale money and then some and haven't really made a dent on the top 4, so simply displacing them would be a huge effort. Man United too, they're in a slump at the moment but they won't get any worse than this, they should be higher as it is. The problem I see is that's it's not just throwing a suitcase of money at it one season, it has to be done season after season after season to really get to the promised land of European places. It's possible without matching the spends of the top clubs of course, but made more unlikely.

I agree somewhat, but it's a difficult trade off when you have a stadium that's just about the right size for right now. I do favour Wes' idea of cheaper inducments for cup games, which would make a small start. It's not first team related, but I also think the proposed new reserves league could make a difference in attracting young fans by having games at more accessible times and in the media spotlight a little more.

Just wondering Baz; how much investment would it need to bust into the top, say, 5 or 6? I ask, as it's not as if we haven't been bankrolled quite well so far. How much on top of that is a realistic amount to first off get into the minor European places?

I don't particularly like the pricing policy but I'd find it difficult to disagree with the business sense of it. Even though attendances have fallen this season, we'll still hit over 90% sold out paying premium prices. There's definitely an argument to be made that that's better than 95% and above sold out but at significant discounts. The corporate boxes, though, I agree. They've been overpriced and outdated for too long and need a rethink and price drop. You also make a good point on cups, I can still remember playing Millwall at home 2 or 3 years ago and getting about 7,000 fans at St Mary's.

4% rise.

He looks like Onion.

Petr Cech Seamus Coleman - John Terry - Gary Cahill - Luke Shaw Eden Hazard - Yaya Toure - Steven Gerrard - Oscar Daniel Sturridge - Luis Suarez That's what I reckon it'll be. Unless they do something else with the formation. I think the votes get collated in January and February so early season form is more of a factor.

Rickie made Mediawatch on F365.

Since when did being able to afford things matter to them.

Then I'd suggest Saints need to reclaim our place as the most famous red and white stripes in football. Sunderland getting relegated would aid that. And no-one likes Stoke anyway so they shouldn't count.

A bit of a pie in the sky aim. But if it keeps some/all of our players here then delude me up.

And like I said, IMO it depends on what is being shouted (and who hears it). If genuinely hateful Semitic abuse is being shouted then I might expect a Jewish person in the vicinity to be offended by it. I wouldn't be offended, probably because I'm not Jewish. But I'd struggle to find it odd that others might. Same for genuine racist abuse too. That's just my opinion though.

I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying it's not possible for anyone to get offended by something that someone might shout out loud during a football game?

Just how stupid are the people you train with that they can't distinguish between two team's shirts, even after approaching you for a closer look? And just how many of these idiots do you actually train with? Or do you hide the badge and sponsor to deliberately confuse them.

Depends what's being shouted, I'd have thought.