angelman

What fines? His statement said that there was the intention to fine him 2 weeks wages. Intention to means that it hasn't happened. You'd have to see his contract to see whether he has grounds but the club would not be so foolish as to not have this area covered. It wouldn't be a reason for breaking the contract, if a sporting tribunal heard it and ruled against the club.

Legal action on what ground? Sticking to the terms of an agreed contract?

Some brilliant bits here..... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4777518/Premier-League-predictions-team-reporters.html Oliver Holt: Which teams will be relegated? Huddersfield, Newcastle, Southampton. Think the curse of Ashley will strike Newcastle again. He needed to back Rafa Benitez properly this summer and so far, he hasn't. There seems to be a huge love in for Marco Silva, and also one (albeit not so large) for Frank de Boer.

Empowerment to accomplish personal goals!! What a load of tosh. I suspect that it is mainly sugar with a good dose of caffeine, so I might as well have a sweet cup of coffee.

Suspect that as the Everton game is subject to their progress in the Europa, it will be moved again to the Sunday.

Spurs are a victim of their success, not too dissimilar to what we experienced. There problem might be down to the rules. I am not sure what level they can spend wage wise, but isn't there a stipulation that you cannot increase your wage bill by more than £7m? If that is the case, and if the whole dressing room is behind Rose, then they are stuffed. £7m to go around say 10 players, is £700k a head for the year (£13.5k a week increase), when I suspect that the players are thinking along the lines of £60-70k more each a week.

Milk Cup for me. As for Carabao, no idea what it is and not going to look it up either. I seem to have got to my grumpy age without coming across it, so I am sure that I can carry on without it.

I imagine so and that its contents were the reason for the apology. Would be fascinated to know what it said, should it somehow be leaked.

I haven't listened to them as already bored of football. Not that I have watched it, but its been on TV on Tuesday, Wednesday, last night. On tonight, tomorrow, Sunday, Monday and probably every day next week as well. Far rather just go to SMS than listen to the opinions of ex Scousers on TV. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. They are biased, naturally so, but unfortunately it leads to a lack of objectivity. Gary Neville was one of the rarer ones when it came to objectivity.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/839501/Liverpool-Transfer-News-Virgil-van-Dijk-Southampton-Mark-Lawrenson-gossip-rumours Surprised the slug balancer took so long to get quoted. Are there any more ex LFC players that haven't been quoted??

Liverpool's U18 manager having his say in the press now. Wonder whether he or Aldridge are going to recommend Coutinho go on strike? https://twitter.com/i/web/status/895589794616664064

I don't know why WHU do this sort of thing. Is it to appease the fans with the self-aggrandisement?

What's wrong with Gardos? The reason for the question is that is there a possibility that he actually might be OK? He has been injured for pretty much the whole time he has been here and not had a good run out in the squad. He has played in 11 PL games (where we have lost 1 of those) and a few U23 and cup games. Maybe he could actually do a decent job, although having had a bad knee injury, the concern might be that it would reoccur. People have written him off without ever having seen him play a decent string of games. They may be justified in doing so, but then again, they might not be.

And apparently, according to Danny Murphy, Rose agitating to move from Spurs (for an agitation it is) is wrong and very different from van Dijk, as Rose is challenging for the title with Spurs and van Dijk isn't with us. That may well be true, but obviously ignores SFC in this and the clubs desires and aspirations. It also confirms that the pundits and footballing (so called) cognoscenti are happy with and want to encourage a Big 6/7 and have everyone else as a makeweight, or feeder club. It is that aspect that I find so disappointing. Ooooooh we are going to have a competitive season this year because there are 6 maybe 7 teams fighting for 4 CL places. That is what football has become. 6 or 7 teams fighting for 4 CL places. Leicester winning it has been consigned to history now that normal service has thankfully be resumed. ****, it was consigned to history pretty soon into the season when the press crowed about the worst defence of a title, was licking its chops about the possibility of either winning the CL + relegation or more likely Champions one season and relegation the next. We are all aware of the hierarchy in modern day football. It has always been so, and always will be. But I do find it strange that the pundits and commentators are happy for an ever increasing closed shop at the top. Do they really find it that interesting to have the same teams year after year up there? That teams like the 2 Manchester and Chelsea can just drop £200m each every year? TBH, while Spurs are a bunch of ****s, I grudgingly admire them for their transfer dealings. Sure they were like a dipsomaniac in a brewery when the Bale money came in, but since then, their transfer dealings have been pretty impressive. I guess now that if they finish 5th or lower, the press will focus on them and give them similar treatment to what we have had. You can't hope to carry on being successful if you don't spend millions. While I am rabbiting on, it is funny how the press were going on about how we couldn't carry on by selling all our players, but when it comes to us refusing to sell to van Dijk, there seems to be a complete change of attitude. Firstly it is inevitable. Secondly it is the right thing for him to do. Thirdly it would be brilliant for Liverpool. Fourthly it would be good for us, as we could get money in to reinvest in the team. Danny Murphy was banging on about the profit we would be turning and that we should be happy with that. He then trundled out some utter guff about how greedy we were if we had changed the indication from being happy to sell at £40m to now wanting £60m+. I sincerely hope Les was listening to that, as he is being a naughty boy.

Interestingly, some said that the problem Spurs would have is if they sell one player, then it might lead to many others going. Walker, he's gone. Gone from a reported £70k a week to £130k a week. He talks to his ex team mates, or they see what he is earning. They think that they are as good if not better than him, and want the same money. Rose goes to Levy and says so. Levy tells him to go away. Rose goes and cries to the Sun. Of course the last bit is pure speculation.

Opinions are like ar5eholes. Everyone has one and they all stink.

The Express, that bastion of journalism, had our away as best away kit.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/4209426/tottenham-news-danny-rose-exclusive/ Comes across as a bit of a tw*t. Its this short career rubbish again - I've only got one big contract left in me. Why do these football players think that they are incapable of forging another career once they hang their boots up? Sure, they are unlikely to be paid as much as they get given now, but that's not really the point.

They don't have to sell. They have a choice. Maybe their objectives have changed. They were looking to be a Champions League club, I believe.

Haven't Watford got quite a big problem with Capoué?

I think that the Coutinho situation might have refocused what's what with some. It is easy to get carried away what with us being a smaller club are ripe for picking etc etc, but when they find that they are the smaller club ripe for picking. Maybe that is unfair and that there has been reasoned argument throughout, but I'm certainly not going to wade through another club's forum, and a thread with 200 odd pages, to find out. All clubs have good and bad. Proportionately it is probably similar whichever club you are, but the fact the LFC have a much bigger fan base means that numerically, they have a higher number of bad ones than we do.

Why? It's difficult to compare the two, but I am the other way around. The first couple of games that PEH played he looked clever and a real prospect. And then it went Pete Tong. Why was that? Was it CP's doing? Was it PEH's and he isn't that good?

Most on RAWK make Glasgow look like Einstein. I skimmed through that page you linked to and there was I think one sensible post.

Spot on. It was Virg not being 100% focused so was told to train on his own. And as a result he would not have been considered to be selected to play and still won't until he gets back to first team/squad training. I'm quite impressed as well as a bit surprised, that the club has not reacted to this with a rebuttal. Would have been easy to do, but would have not led anywhere good. A few of the more objective commentators have picked up on this, but it is few and far between and in general the press don't care about the true nature of events. Look at today's headline. "Rot in the stands". Now the Star trotted that one out, everyone else in the way they do today, copied it and it is not the accepted line of what's up.

We've got England's U21 captain.