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It has tanked. It is still tanked.
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Please don't accuse me of lying. That is a very serious allegation to which I strongly object. Just consider the reduction in taxes on a 1% lower GDP than it would have been and you will get some idea of the figures involved. £350m is a figure plucked out of thin air. It bears no relation to our gross contribution and has no relevance to the cost of our membership.
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Europa League 2016/2017 (Died 8/12/2016)
Whitey Grandad replied to ScepticalStan's topic in The Saints
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Nor did it take into account the loss of GDP from leaving which far outweighs the net contribution.
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Because it was nowhere near that amount and we all know that any savings will be minor and certainly wot be spent on the NHS.
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It was factually incorrect by a very big margin and deliberately misleading. Some people will have believed it and I have even seen this figure repeated on here by some.
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Nothing we ever get will be as good as what we have now with the EU and it will be many years before we get it. An FTA is nowhere near as beneficial as the Single Market.
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Matt Ridley lives in a world of his own. It begins with 'Cloud' and ends with 'Land' and in the middle are a load of cuckoos.
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Once Article 50 is triggered it doesn't matter what we want. It will be take it or leave it.
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Goalkeepers have been allowed to move for a long time now, certainly since before I swallowed my whistle. They are not allowed to come forward off their line though but this does not seem to be enforced. Also I thought that from this season the kicker was not allowed to hesitate or 'stutter' in his run up.
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Wise words.
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Will the break be enough to get Cedric fit?
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Could be. If so, it would need to be done before the economy deteriorates, but there would need to be a motion of no confidence passed first. The people may have spoken but they didn't actually say what they wanted, only what they didn't want.
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She's in a very weak position as far as getting anything through Parliament is concerned. Just wait for the first government motion to be voted down and then let's see how far hard talking takes her. Don't get me wrong, I want the best outcome for Britain but from what I've heard about her leadership style I can't see her lasting very long. She's made too many enemies.
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OK, I will if I have time. I get home late afternoon on Tuesday 18th and fly out to Milan next morning. Things are looking good. First stabilise the defence and then push on from there.
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I thought Paul Wotton took both.
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Paul Wotton. 'nuff said.
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Another clean sheet and another game that I don't have to sit through when I get home
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Before the French and German elections? This woman is getting above her station.
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British politics is far more subtle than that. We don't live in a dictatorship and there are layers upon layers that must be negotiated before anything can be achieved.
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But it is the manner of our leaving that matters now.
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I'm on an iPad so it's difficult for me to highlight certain paragraphs but I'm not clear what you're arguing in your first paragraph. All the items you list should be determined by the government, certainly not by referendums. I don't know of any manifesto that has ever been implemented in full, everybody knows that they are just aspirations. Whatever happened to the increase in the Inheritance Tax threshold? 'We' also elected a government with David Cameron as Prime Minister but that didn't last long.
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...and parliament agreed to an advisory referendum.
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Au contraire. There shouldn't have been any referendums because that is not our democratic way. Parliament is supreme and reflects and implements the will of the people. We didn't have a referendum when we declared war in 1939.
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Their future should have been considered too. Perhaps their guardians should have had an extra vote for each child? I'm just saying that this referendum was not democratic. But it has been and gone now. My complaint was that it certainly wasn't a majority of the people in Britain.
