Whitey Grandad

From that I would assume that no General Election is likely in the immediate future, barring an unbelivable offer from the EU.

Good luck to him, perfectly understandable. Now, who do we get as a replacement?

Strong Brexit vote? Where did you see this? The country is split down the middle and the MPs (who are more representative) are strongly Remain. The only bargaining card we have is to delay Article 50. Once that is triggered then whatever we get offered is take it or leave it, no negotiating whatsoever. Being outside the Single Market is so disastrously unthinkable that some middle way will have to be found before we light the exit fuse.

Politically, yes. Econonmically, who the fook knows. That would be ok. I'd still like my little blue flag with gold stars on my driving licence and number plate please.

Confirmed on the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36763208 Perhaps she wanted to spend more time with her children.

This is not the same as some major industrial company setting up a new facility in the UK because the only reason it will be here is because it will be paid for by the defence budget. If you were talking about some major computer centre or suchlike then I would agree with you. A long way to go but we should expect more of this: http://metro.co.uk/2016/07/10/lush-cosmetics-moves-to-germany-because-of-brexit-5998494/

She'll have to do. Any idea what form of Brexit? Anybody?

And all paid for by the British taxpayer.

Too old

A parade of medals is called for, I should think. At the very least a guard of honour for the first game.

And I thought Everton were the ones with ambition.

Where did that come from? It must have come from another game by mistake.

Don't be silly, this is Heathrow.

Tool

You're getting soft in your old age I must admit to a certain sadness myself.

No, it's not just us. There are still discussions going on in the media and its apparent that there is a lot of real anger around. Over 4 million protest signups to that infamous government petition for example. The 35% figure is not relevant since nothing is known about the predilections of those who couldn't or didn't get to vote.

Thanks. Polling cards mean nothing of course but postal votes might be significant, unless these were potential applications for postal votes. Whatever, it's not the same situation as living in the same bungalow for forty years.

I have a spare if you're interested. What part of the world are you in?

More match day visitors will raise more revenue but only if this is through off-field spending. Many years ago when we were considering our new stadium options I had several discussions with EBC about the business planning. Man Utd could have sold out their ground several times over but made a conscious decision to have a high turnover of occasional visitors because they would visit the club shop and buy all the Ryan Giggs bedspreads and other branded junk whereas the regulars might only buy one a year. As an example they sold more Schmeichel replica shirts than any other club sold in total. Newcastle extended their brand through the the city with shops and mannequins of Les Ferdinand and others at the airport. It's all one big marketing ploy and the revenue doesn't just come through bums on seats. Expanding our stadium would be a pure business choice and I doubt that the motive would be to reduce prices. It's entirely up to the owners.

Oi! I used to live next to the River Lea. It was all that kept us apart from Essex.

It was not universal. It is now down to the individual to register and cannot be done by a hall of residence so I don't know which institution you are referring to. If you are a student then registration can be achieved but I do wonder whether the turn out amongst the older generation would have been as high if everybody had to go out of their way every time they wanted to vote. Whatever you may think it cannot be good for democratic engagement if so many are disenfranchised, even if they would vote Labour. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jan/31/electoral-register-loses-estimated-800000-people-since-changes-to-system http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/conservative-changes-to-voter-registration-leave-800000-off-election-rolls-a6845796.html "As you will know, IER prevents universities from block registering all their students in halls of residence, but measures should be taken to ensure that it is as easy as possible for individual students to register.”

They had to be registered first and there were a number of reasons why many couldn't. 3.5 million under 35s were not registered for various reasons. One was the timing of the vote where students when formerly would have been registered by their educational institutions were no longer allowed to do so. It's easy for a retired pensioner who's been on the electoral register for generations and who has had all day to get to their polling station to complain about youngsters who have jobs and lives to lead and who could be all over the place but whatever the reasons it cannot be good for democracy if people have hurdles to jump before they can vote. This from before the vote: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/21/young-voters-might-hold-key-to-brexit-but-will-they-use-it.html

Well put, Verbal, and apologies to everybody for quoting the lot. A thought had occurred to me that maybe the grandees arranged for May to maintain a somewhat unenthusiastic stance during the campaign so that she would be well placed to act as a long-stop in case the vote went the wrong way. Or maybe I'm just overthinking things.

No, that's not what I'm saying at all, you are deliberately attributing meanings that aren't there. I presume that when you say 'you' you are referring to Remainers in general and not me in particular? I'm struggling to understand the meaning behind your last sentence, there's no logic in it. What exactly does 'suck it up' mean?

And mine. That's another season that you'll have to put up with me