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No, but you have made it abundantly clear that your main objection to taking the knee is that it Is inextricably linked to the specific BLM movement who have in the past advocated those things, and vociferously disagreed when people point out the fallacy of that position.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57778668 Writing on Twitter on Monday evening, Mings said: "You don't get to stoke the fire at the beginning of the tournament by labelling our anti-racism message as 'Gesture Politics' and then pretend to be disgusted when the very thing we're campaigning against, happens.". Good on you Tyrone.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57800431 I'm just gonna leave this here for anyone who is still labouring under the impression that there is no problem with racism in English football and that taking the knee is a pointless political gesture.

You think VAR's failure to get involved and send off Jorginho for that assault on Grealish was 'refreshing' ?

Mount wasn't on the pitch at the end. Was subbed off for Grealish.

The laws of the game need changing when Chiellini can do that and still stay on the pitch. And if Jorginho makes a tackle that in the PL then you can guarantee VAR would intervene and change his card to red.

Ok fair enough, he's just confirmed it was his call and takes full responsibility for it.

Yes of course. And it backfired on him. What's that got to do with Saka taking the 5th penalty though?

Or, heaven forbid, he might learn from his experiences and improve?

Given his history with penalty shootouts, you really think he would deliberately put that pressure on the shoulders of the youngest player on the pitch?

Foden was injured.

What's so gutting is that, despite being arguably the better team, Italy needed a fluke rebound off the post to score their equaliser. Can't believe that none of the more experienced players stepped up to take that last pen and let the teenager take it. Spineless.

Just knew we wouldn't win if it went to pens. Italy too experienced versus our young side. Result was inevitable.

Chiellini should have got a straight red for that! A more blatant deliberate foul you will never see.

Miraculous recovery from Chiesa there.

How has Veratti not been carded?

It's fucking bonkers how Mourinho had it in for him. He's been superb in every game so far.

Ironically, last time I went to Wembley I (and a good few others on here I suspect) was going mental after a certain Italian player scored, and proudly joined in as we all sang his name. Will be none of that tonight.

I seem to remember the last time we did a kind of player exchange deal with Blackburn, we got James Beattie. He didn't turn out too bad in the end.

But can any of them offer the big step up in wages he would be demanding? Probably not.

The issue that Vest and Ings are going to face is that, while they both may feel they are capable of playing at a higher level than lower mid-table PL, I don't think either of them are very high on the target list of any of the clubs who could afford to pay them what they think they are worth.

It was soft, but Maehle has only got himself to blame. If you stick your foot out like that and miss the ball, chances are you're going to give away a pen. Anyway, it was justice served as far as I'm concerned, because there's no way they should have been given the FK they scored from.

It was idiotic for sure, but there is no possible way of identifying where in the stadium it came from. I don't see how England can be charged with failing to control their fans when you can't prove it was even an England fan (even though it obviously was).