Sheaf Saint

This 'strategy' has turned out to be a monumental failure, given that we have suffered both the worst death rate in the world, and the biggest economic impact in Europe as well.

Taken out of context or not, it was still an outrageously stupid thing for him to be saying on national TV, as the "take it on the chin" option should never have been in the room, let alone on the table. In the same interview, he described cancelling public events and closing schools as "quite draconian". He was completely wrong about that as well, as they were obviously necessary measures that he didn't even want to consider taking at the time.

On the flip side of that though, some research was published last week which shows that nearly a third of people who are hospitalised with Covid and then released are re-admitted within 5 months, with over 12 percent of them subsequently dying. These people are not included in the statistics because they did not die within 28 days of a positive test.

And going on This Morning and saying he wanted to let it spread through the population naturally, and standing up in front of a business leaders' conference and proclaiming himself to be the "Superman of Capitalism" by refusing to implement the necessary restrictions. There may be multiple factors that have lead us to where we are, but having a criminally corrupt and incompetent government in Westminster is by far the single most critical one.

Wycombe doing quite well to hold Spurs so far, though been a bit lucky with the crossbar coming to their rescue a couple of times. Former Saints academy lad Jason McCarthy one of their stand out players.

I think it's more your assumption that it's the same people each time.

And yet only very recently you were cheerfully crowing that one of the best things about Brexit was pissing off the remainers.

Yes, but he's already played for England at U17 and U19, and he wants to wait and see what his future chances are before committing himself.

Absolutely mental seeing him on telly playing in the FA Cup. I bought him his first skills ball as a Xmas present when he was 7! Thought he did pretty well. Looked calm and composed, always made himself available to receive a pass, and put in a really good tackle towards the end. In case anyone is wondering, his mum is my sister-in-law, and his dad is from Kenya.

It's a decent game this. Both teams playing some nice stuff so far.

DM

Just tuning in for the Everton v Sheff Weds game, with an immense feeling of pride. My 17yo nephew is making his first appearance in the Everton first team squad for this one - Tyler Onyango. He's been making a big name for himself in the U23s this season and has been knocking on the door of the first team for a while. Found out yesterday he'll be on the bench, and I'm not expecting him to get on the pitch, but just to see his name on the squad announcement on Twitter is incredible.

Oh that deserved a goal. Lovely skill from Che.

Great start. I wonder how long we can maintain this intensity though.

Anyone found a decent stream?

It really was very clear... As in my case. I am a key worker and I work from home. What's so confusing to everyone about that? Maybe I could have added the next bit on a separate line, but I wasn't saying I'm justified in putting my daughter in school solely because I wouldn't get any work done. Because I'm not an idiot and I know that's not the case. I was just making the point that simply being at home doesn't automatically mean someone is capable of full time childcare as well, which is what Whitey appeared to be suggesting.

Eh? Whitey said his daughter told him there are kids in school whose parents are WFH, as if to say they shouldn't be in school. Aintforever pointed out that people can be key workers and still be WFH, making it impractical/impossible for them to also have kids off school and at home with them. I simply agreed and said that this is the situation I am in. I am a key worker, working from home, and I could not do my job if I could not put my daughter in school. To say that no kids should be at school if one of their parents is WFH is just wrong if you don't take the parent's job into account. What is it about this you don't get?

Yes. In the same way we have 'access' to markets anywhere else in the world. It doesn't exactly fit with the notion of "staying in that zone" does it.

“There is a free trade zone stretching from Iceland to Turkey that all European nations have access to, regardless of whether they are in or out of the euro or EU. After we vote to leave we will stay in this zone. The suggestion that Bosnia, Serbia, Albania and the Ukraine would stay part of this free trade area – and Britain would be on the outside with just Belarus – is as credible as Jean-Claude Juncker joining UKIP. Agreeing to maintain this continental free trade zone is the simple course and emphatically in everyone’s interests.” Michael Gove - April 2016.

That's just the way you read it. That wasn't what I was trying to imply. I am a key worker because of the demands of my job (see previous post). Having sole responsibility for my daughter at home, while my wife is out at work in a hospital, would leave me unable to fulfil my duties. So yes, I am working from home, but I am also completely justified in putting my daughter into school. I was really responding to WG's statement that his daughter knows for a fact that the mum of one of the kids in her school is working from home. The implication from this is that this mum is taking the piss and should have her child at home. But without knowing exactly what that mum does for her job, it's unfair to make that kind of judgement.

No, the fact that I work in an incident response role for a category 1 responder makes me a key worker.

This is where we have ended up. Can someone please try and explain to me how this squares with what was promised by the leave campaigners?

Exactly. As in my case. My wife works in a hospital so is out on the front line, and if I had to have my daughter at home then I wouldn't be able to get any actual work done, because she would require my constant attention.