Sheaf Saint

I just saw the replay and I cannot for the life of me work out how he decided that tackle on Long just before the goal was not a penalty. Truly shocking refereeing.

Get rid - now. The guy is a total liability, it's like playing with only ten men because the rest of the team clearly have no respect for him or faith in his ability. There was a moment last night when he stupidly gave away a foul in the opposite half and then just casually jogged back while SHU took a quick free kick, leaving Clyne completely exposed against two men, and you could see Clyne lose his rag and screaming at Mane. He can't get past a L1 defence, he provides no defensive cover for Clyne, he lunges into wild tackles, and his team mates clearly can't stand the guy. I have defended him up until now, but I can't anymore.

I had this very conversation with a mate of mine at the game tonight. I would rather he was sat on our bench than on Hull's.

Hey, I'm usually the most optimistic, happy-clappy, 'give-them-the-benefit-of-the-doubt' guy you will find on this forum after a defeat. But I have just been and watched the most pathetic team performance I have ever seen dished up by a Southampton team in over 25 years of watching them. Not one single player came out of tonight's game with any credit. If we had given it a good go, created a few chances, put up a fight but just got unlucky then I wouldn't be concerned. But not one fan who was there tonight to witness that will try and convince you that was the case. we were complete and utter gash, and failed to create a single noteworthy effort on goal against an average L1 team. That is the long and short of it.

It's hard to single out one player from the dross tonight, but I have to question - why on earth did we pay such money for Mane? The guy is just a total headless chicken who totally disrupts the whole balance of the team as nobody else has the slightest idea where he is, where he is supposed to be, and what he is going to do. Just how badly does he have to play before he gets dropped? I cheered when he got subbed tonight (which is not something I would normally do) but then groaned when it was announced he was being replaced by somebody equally as inept as him - Mayuka.

Just got home after stopping via the local to drown my sorrows. I don't think I have the words to adequately describe just how utterly sh*te we were tonight. No desire, no quality, no creativity, no fluidity, no incisiveness, and no goal threat whatsoever - against an average L1 team who simply wanted it more than we did. We managed one measly shot on target, which fell to Mane who tamely hit it straight at the keeper. Other than that, JWP hit a FK not far off, and that was about it. Utter, utter crap Saints. I haven't been this depressed about a result since we lost away to Tranmere in our L1 days. Complete sh*t and I hope those players who 'played' tonight are going to issue a public apology to the 4000 or so fans who completely wasted their time travelling up to watch such total ineptitude. I have been quite defensive of the team throughout our recent bad run, pointing to bad luck and injury problems as the root cause of our slump. But after tonight I am left seriously wondering where out next league points are going to come from. I'm only glad I don't have a 3-4 hour drive home.

They're pulling your plonker mate. There is no such pub. The Sheaf View in Heeley is not the same pub as the Sheaf on Bramall Lane.

Clattenburg was his usual crap self yesterday. Can't complain about the yellow he gave to Hesketh, but the tackle on him by Keane which forced him to go off injured was just as worthy of a booking, but he didn't even give a foul.

The Sheaf View and the Brothers Arms. Both in Heeley and about 10-15 mins walk from the ground.

It speaks volumes that the player who has come closest to scoring for us (barring the penalty miss) is a defender.

FFS Wanyama - what the f**k!!!!

Koeman finally makes the change - 20 minutes too late IMO.

Burnley are definitely sitting a bit deeper now. Time to make the change and bring on Long for Mane I reckon.

Would you rather Mane had taken it?

Clear penalty - no complaints. Good save.

FFS Mane. Got to hit the target there - at least make the keeper work. Get him off now Ron. He's just an empty shirt out there - not putting in the required effort and giving up on balls far too easily.

We can only hope. I defended him a little because I didn't think he was quite as bad against MU as some were making out, but he has been utterly useless today. I would sub him for long and move Tadic to the left.

Not really. We know what he can do, he just isn't doing it at the moment. It's not as if he is being marked out of games by opposing teams.

What the hell has happened to Tadic recently?

Deliberately left his foot in - should have got a yellow.

Hesketh will surely have to come off.

Yet again - our final ball is f***ing terrible.

Oh great - Twittenburg is refereeing.

OK, let's leave him out for the next game. Who does everyone think we should play instead?

So disappointing. We were the better team for the most part. Utd offered nothing up front but we simply gifted them soft goals, like we did against City (who in fairness were a much better team). The lack of squad depth is killing us now. The inexperience on our bench and lack of any decent attacking players to turn to when we're chasing a game is really hurting us.