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We were told on an number of occasions Allardyce is a crap manager who doesn't have a clue. Yet his signed smashed us 4-1 and look at his track record. Took Bolton into the premier league and to their highest placed finish ever, Newcastle and Blackburn were both mid table when he was fired and both got relegated the follow seasons. Took West Ham up at the first time of asking and they are now in the top half. It may not be pretty but it's effective and i have no doubt he'll establish West ham back in the premier league over the next couple of seasons. Not bad for a crap manager who hasn't got a clue.

Of course i'm picking and choosing what to believe. You cant believe what Adkins says AND the rumours can you?! My view is there is simply too much out there to dismiss it as not being true. If it was one journalist and a post on a mongboard they you could, but it is much, much more than that. My take on it is that Adkins is a nice, intellegent man who wants to keep his job. If he hates Cortese and is being told what to do the sort of person he is he wouldn't come out in the media and say it anyway would? Do you agree with that or not? Or do you think that Nigel is the sort of bloke who would come out and public say he cant stand the chairman, should have made more defensive signings in the summer and he's told to pick Guly in a Holloway type rant?

Again, i would expect him to say that.

I remember the Beirhoff thing as being in the echo. As for the Paul allen thing, who knows? I was told that there was some interest, but it never went further than an enquiry by a senior ex employee, i was also told around the same time by another ex employee not to believe all press rumours as there was a lot of pro club PR being spun to try and attract a buyer. I doubt that any story is completely made up just to fill space, in fact a poster on here who works for a red top and i know personally said that every rumour they print, such as transfer stories do have a valid source, not made up bullsh*t like some like to claim. As i've said numerous journalists AND people with connections in the club are saying that he doesn't havea good relationship with the chairman. Fitzhugh fella posted on saintslist, which was then posted on here, only last week what he knows about it and a journlist tweeted yesterday Adkins works in "intollerable conditions" another article said he has fractious relationship with Cortese. IMO there are too many people saying it is the case for it not to have some substance. Adkins is just doing what every employee would do, do you seriously think he'd tell the media he hates the chairman and they dont get on?

I dont. If you want to bring in good players they cost more. Ramirez is one of the top young players in Europe and a full international for a top footballing nation. If Rickie Lambert is upset Ramirez is on more then ask him to bring his international caps along to his pay review.

Yes i agree with this. It's a case of when and not if. IMO.

Do you think journalists would be focusing on it if there wasn't something in it? Sky even had cameras and reports at the training ground all day yesterday. We are Saints, i doubt there are many people north of the M4 who give a toss if we are just about to sack our manager or not, they arent sensationalising it to sell papers are they! Despite their starts it's pretty clear Adkins is under more pressure than the other two. Not helped by our ambitious chairman and £30m summer outlay.

I posted on the match thread he is exactly the sort of player we need. £175k!!!!

What are peoples thoughts now?

it all makes a lot of sense and is a very good idea. As long as manager also has a major input into transfers and all other football matters.

Dont be silly. You've got lots of journalists and rumours all over the place from people in Southampton saying Adkins isn't in full controll. If it was just one or two you can dismiss it, but it's coming from lots of sources.

He's also said many times he has a great relationship with the chairman. I think most people are starting to accept that isn't true now.

Dont disagree. I feel a lot of loyalty towards Nige and i dont like seeing what is essentially a really decent bloke struggling and looking at times like a beaten man. I also feel that there are too many rumours of him working in "intolerable conditions" for them to be just made up bulls*t. But if there is a better manager available then the club is the most important thing and i'm sure Nigel will go on to be successful somewhere else.

He meant Jedi school

You could say the same about Nige though. How poor did we look when Lambert didn't play. Doncaster away anyone?

Hang on. Only a few weeks ago, when people said other fans were taking the p*ss out of our fans for having so many bulbs in fancy dress people were very indignant and insisted that they didn't give a f*ck what other clubs thought of us. So why do we care what Swansea fans think about us?

Really? I dont know anyone away from the mongboard world that wanted him out.

Pardew was against the fans wishes. Chris Nicholl was a strange one, the fans wanted him gone but looking back he actaully did a very good job under the circumstances. I always remember Nicholls comments on his sacking, "it's not from faliure but failure to bring success" Nicholl Out, Branfoot in.

that is what i am lead to believe. Chelsea wanted Guardiola and he wanted to take a year out so they gave it to Di Matteo based on his champions league win. If Guardiola had taken the job i'm fairly sure Di Matteo would be at Saints now.* *feel free to believe or dismiss this, i am only saying what i was told

You will notice i haven't been using my charming man, dune or Sour Mash logins much recently.

I was told he knows Di Matteo well and actually wanted to bring him in in the summer before he got the Chelsea job. Feel free to believe or dismiss this, i am only saying what i was told.

Because the last few times we didn't have anyone lined up it went really well. Dean Wilkins? Dodd and Gorman? Wotte?

I thought being lamblasted was the new being shouted down?

Remember the Pardew saga? All sorts of rumours going round he was about to be sacked, a meeting to place, reports pardew was safe and then suddenly he's sacked a couple of weeks into the season.

Behave.